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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Date Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:51:10 GMT
Great job guys!

On 3/22/13 4:39 AM, "Marlon Pierce" <marpierc@iu.edu> wrote:

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>Yes, +1, this is a good collection.
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>Marlon
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>On 3/22/13 7:37 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
>> <danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
>>> 
>>> [1] -
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
>>>
>>> 
>Literature
>> 
>> This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
>> 
>> Suresh
>> 
>>> Thanks, Danushka
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are
>>>> just stepping in.
>>>> 
>>>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, ³Scientific workflow: a survey
>>>> and research directions,² Parallel Processing and Applied
>>>> Mathematics, pp. 746­753, 2008.
>>>> 
>>>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D.
>>>> Gannon, C. Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on
>>>> the 2006 NSF Workshop on Challenges of Scientific Workflows.
>>>> Citeseer, 2006.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Danushka
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
>>>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic
>>>>> details to start with workflow engines. Also they have done a
>>>>> review on existing solutions for workflow applications and
>>>>> their limitations with respect to scalability and on-demand
>>>>> access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
>>>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned
>>>>> about this) which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid
>>>>> workflow systems w.r.t their design, scheduling, information
>>>>> retrieval, fault tolerant and data movement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Pavithra.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, ³Workflow
>>>>> engine for clouds,² Cloud Computing, Principles and
>>>>> Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
>>>>> Computing, pp. 321­344, 2011.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
>>>>> Computing, Jia Yu and Rajkumar Buyya
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa
>>>>> <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I
>>>>>> think it is better to study general concepts of workflow
>>>>>> engines first and then
>>>>> study
>>>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the
>>>>>> challenges are different from business workflow engines).
>>>>>> Each prominent workflow
>>>>> engine
>>>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while
>>>>>> major
>>>>> abstraction is
>>>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of
>>>>>> prominent
>>>>> workflow
>>>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of
>>>>>> Apache OODT and used in several NASA missions and other
>>>>>> research) . I have already some work on these items and
>>>>>> would like to contribute them into wiki.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /Sanjaya
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>>>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would say,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. Science Gateways 2. Workflow Engines 3.
>>>>>>> Data/Compute-Intensive Computing 4. Challenges and
>>>>>>> Opportunities in Science Gateways 5. Research Directions
>>>>>>> (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
>>>>> relates
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> 4)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Danushka
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus
>>>>>>> Weerawarana < shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HI All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students who have
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>> significant
>>>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is
>>>>>>>> time to
>>>>> harness
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done
>>>>>>>> individually and
>>>>> list
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your
>>>>>>>> thoughts on the
>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Shahani
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
>>>>> newair007@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the
>>>>>>>>> same project. We
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found some
>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>> facts
>>>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper
>>>>>>>>> 'TeraGrid Science
>>>>>> Gateways
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4
>>>>>>>>> successful
>>>>> science
>>>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD
>>>>>>>>> project has
>>>>>>> caused
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the development of  AIRAVATA which is used to build
>>>>>>>>> science
>>>>> gateways.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework
>>>>>>>>> for Distributed Applications and Computational
>>>>>>>>> Workflows*' describes about some
>>>>> work
>>>>>>> flow
>>>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says these are
>>>>>>>>> tools to build science gateways. And we came to a
>>>>>>>>> conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And
>>>>>>>>> tried to figure
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We
>>>>>>>>> would like to
>>>>> have
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path
>>>>>>>>> determining
>>>>> what
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project.
>>>>>>>>> Your help is
>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank You !
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&ur
>>>>>l=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4
>>>>>668681%26tag%3D1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <smarru@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in
>>>>>>>>>> which Workflow
>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to do
>>>>>>>>>> literature study on
>>>>>> Science
>>>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of
>>>>>>>>>> reference papers to
>>>>> make
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will
>>>>>>>>>> quickly realize the
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in open source
>>>>>>>>>> projects is
>>>>>>> cracking
>>>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code,
>>>>>>>>>> going through
>>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing
>>>>>>>>>> lists of the
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first
>>>>>>>>>> list, please
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students
>>>>>>>>>> like you will
>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> your contributions.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Suresh
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara
>>>>>>>>>> <harsz89@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS
>>>>>>>>>>> integration to the
>>>>>>> Airavata.During
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing work flow
>>>>>>>>>>> generation
>>>>> tools
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana. We would
>>>>>>>>>>> like if we can some details and
>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>>>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa* *Sri Lanka.*
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.* *Computer
>>>>>>>> Scientist* Visiting Fellow, University of New South
>>>>>>>> Wales, Australia. Visiting Scientist, Indiana
>>>>>>>> University, USA. Visiting Lecturer, University of
>>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Pavithra Kulathilaka.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
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