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From Sameera Jayaratna <sameerajayara...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Date Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:29:20 GMT
Hi,

Thank you very much for the resources. They will be really helpful for our
project to gain a lot of knowledge in the context and move on.

Thanks,
Sameera

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Lahiru Gunathilake <glahiru@gmail.com>wrote:

> Nice one Danushka !
>
> Thanks for the contribution.
>
> Lahiru
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> > Great job guys!
> >
> > On 3/22/13 4:39 AM, "Marlon Pierce" <marpierc@iu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > >Yes, +1, this is a good collection.
> > >
> > >
> > >Marlon
> > >
> > >
> > >On 3/22/13 7:37 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
> > >> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
> > >> <danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] -
> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Literature
> > >>
> > >> This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
> > >>
> > >> Suresh
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks, Danushka
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> > >>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are
> > >>>> just stepping in.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, ³Scientific workflow: a survey
> > >>>> and research directions,² Parallel Processing and Applied
> > >>>> Mathematics, pp. 746­753, 2008.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D.
> > >>>> Gannon, C. Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on
> > >>>> the 2006 NSF Workshop on Challenges of Scientific Workflows.
> > >>>> Citeseer, 2006.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks, Danushka
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
> > >>>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic
> > >>>>> details to start with workflow engines. Also they have done
a
> > >>>>> review on existing solutions for workflow applications and
> > >>>>> their limitations with respect to scalability and on-demand
> > >>>>> access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
> > >>>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned
> > >>>>> about this) which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid
> > >>>>> workflow systems w.r.t their design, scheduling, information
> > >>>>> retrieval, fault tolerant and data movement.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards, Pavithra.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, ³Workflow
> > >>>>> engine for clouds,² Cloud Computing, Principles and
> > >>>>> Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
> > >>>>> Computing, pp. 321­344, 2011.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
> > >>>>> Computing, Jia Yu and Rajkumar Buyya
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa
> > >>>>> <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines
I
> > >>>>>> think it is better to study general concepts of workflow
> > >>>>>> engines first and then
> > >>>>> study
> > >>>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the
> > >>>>>> challenges are different from business workflow engines).
> > >>>>>> Each prominent workflow
> > >>>>> engine
> > >>>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while
> > >>>>>> major
> > >>>>> abstraction is
> > >>>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of
> > >>>>>> prominent
> > >>>>> workflow
> > >>>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of
> > >>>>>> Apache OODT and used in several NASA missions and other
> > >>>>>> research) . I have already some work on these items and
> > >>>>>> would like to contribute them into wiki.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> /Sanjaya
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
<
> > >>>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would say,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1. Science Gateways 2. Workflow Engines 3.
> > >>>>>>> Data/Compute-Intensive Computing 4. Challenges and
> > >>>>>>> Opportunities in Science Gateways 5. Research Directions
> > >>>>>>> (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
> > >>>>> relates
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> 4)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Danushka
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus
> > >>>>>>> Weerawarana < shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> HI All,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students
who have
> > >>>>>>>> done
> > >>>>>> significant
> > >>>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe
it is
> > >>>>>>>> time to
> > >>>>> harness
> > >>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done
> > >>>>>>>> individually and
> > >>>>> list
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your
> > >>>>>>>> thoughts on the
> > >>>>>>> categories
> > >>>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Shahani
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA
<
> > >>>>> newair007@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working
in the
> > >>>>>>>>> same project. We
> > >>>>>>> looked
> > >>>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found
some
> > >>>>>>>>> interesting
> > >>>>>> facts
> > >>>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper
> > >>>>>>>>> 'TeraGrid Science
> > >>>>>> Gateways
> > >>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about
4
> > >>>>>>>>> successful
> > >>>>> science
> > >>>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know
that LEAD
> > >>>>>>>>> project has
> > >>>>>>> caused
> > >>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> the development of  AIRAVATA which is used
to build
> > >>>>>>>>> science
> > >>>>> gateways.
> > >>>>>>> And
> > >>>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework
> > >>>>>>>>> for Distributed Applications and Computational
> > >>>>>>>>> Workflows*' describes about some
> > >>>>> work
> > >>>>>>> flow
> > >>>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says
these are
> > >>>>>>>>> tools to build science gateways. And we came
to a
> > >>>>>>>>> conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> > >>>>>>> similar
> > >>>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong).
And
> > >>>>>>>>> tried to figure
> > >>>>>> out
> > >>>>>>>> what
> > >>>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses.
We
> > >>>>>>>>> would like to
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong
path
> > >>>>>>>>> determining
> > >>>>> what
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this
project.
> > >>>>>>>>> Your help is
> > >>>>>> really
> > >>>>>>>>> appreciated.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank You !
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&ur
> > >>>>>l=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org
> > %2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4
> > >>>>>668681%26tag%3D1
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <smarru@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework
in
> > >>>>>>>>>> which Workflow
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to
do
> > >>>>>>>>>> literature study on
> > >>>>>> Science
> > >>>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set
of
> > >>>>>>>>>> reference papers to
> > >>>>> make
> > >>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>> easy
> > >>>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You
will
> > >>>>>>>>>> quickly realize the
> > >>>>>> best
> > >>>>>>>> way
> > >>>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in
open source
> > >>>>>>>>>> projects is
> > >>>>>>> cracking
> > >>>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading
the code,
> > >>>>>>>>>> going through
> > >>>>>>>> tutorials
> > >>>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding
mailing
> > >>>>>>>>>> lists of the
> > >>>>>> tools
> > >>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a
good first
> > >>>>>>>>>> list, please
> > >>>>>> keep
> > >>>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students
> > >>>>>>>>>> like you will
> > >>>>>> benefit
> > >>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>> your contributions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Suresh
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara
> > >>>>>>>>>> <harsz89@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's
WPS
> > >>>>>>>>>>> integration to the
> > >>>>>>> Airavata.During
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing
work flow
> > >>>>>>>>>>> generation
> > >>>>> tools
> > >>>>>>> like
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana.
We would
> > >>>>>>>>>>> like if we can some details and
> > >>>>>> points
> > >>>>>>>>> about
> > >>>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from
those tools?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate*
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and
Engineering*
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa* *Sri Lanka.*
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -- *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.* *Computer
> > >>>>>>>> Scientist* Visiting Fellow, University of New South
> > >>>>>>>> Wales, Australia. Visiting Scientist, Indiana
> > >>>>>>>> University, USA. Visiting Lecturer, University
of
> > >>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -- Pavithra Kulathilaka.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> --
> System Analyst Programmer
> PTI Lab
> Indiana University
>



-- 
*Sameera Jayaratna*
*Undergraduate*
*Department of Computer Science And Engineering*
*University of Moratuwa*
*Sri Lanka*

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