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From michael.andre.pea...@me.com.INVALID
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap, codename ActiveMQ Missus
Date Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:15:33 GMT
I think as a project we need to be clear in direction here with one roadmap. To avoid users
confusion.




I was on the understanding that as a community and PMC a roadmap was already agreed.




And this was for artemis to become activemq 6 was agreed and once it has all features (and
more) of 5 which is now nearing.




Its one of the reasons over the years features like jms 2 there hasnt been effort to add it,
as Artemis was the planned replacement that brought jms 2 features amongst others. 








 




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On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 7:13 PM +0100, <fpapon@apache.org> wrote:










Hi JB,

I think it make a lot of sense to focus on this points and I will be
more than happy to contribute!

There is a very large community of users around the ActiveMQ 5.x and
it's still very widely use in production environment.

I'm not sure that the users actually understand the difference between
ActiveMQ 5.x and Artemis, and why Artemis will became ActiveMQ 6.x.

If ActiveMQ 5.x still has a long life, I think that the community should
be clear about the 2 projects name.

regards,

François
fpapon@apache.org

Le 18/06/2019 à 19:44, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to discuss with you about the ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap.
>
> Even if Artemis is there, the stack is different and we still have lot
> of users on ActiveMQ, and, as a ActiveMQ 5.x fan and contributor, I
> think it's worth to give a new "dimension" to ActiveMQ 5.x.
>
> As all Apache projects, ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap and use is driven by the
> community, so I would like to propose and share some ideas with the
> ActiveMQ community.
>
> I already imagine a new codename for ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap: ActiveMQ Missus.
>
> Basically, I would like to propose a roadmap around three major points:
>
> 1. Modularity
> Today, ActiveMQ 5.x is a monolythic broker, even if most of the parts
> are already well isolated (persistent stores, transport connectors,
> etc). It makes sense to have some more "modular" and micro-services
> oriented, why not leveraging Apache Karaf with services.
>
> 2. Configuration backends
> We currently use Spring beans XML as main configuration backend (or
> blueprint in Karaf). I think it makes sense to update and split the
> configuration backend with something more "pluggable", and be able to
> expose new configuration format like yml.
>
> 3. Protocol/API update
> I would like to add support of JMS 2.0 in ActiveMQ 5.x and check/update
> the other protocols/APIs.
>
> 4. Cloud friendly
> I already sent some ideas weeks ago about "cloud friendly features" in
> ActiveMQ 5.x.
> Basically, I would like to propose:
> - a replicated/distributed persistent store to be able to have several
> brokers running with a distributed store. I'm testing an update to
> KahaDB using Bookkeeper.
> - provide new discovery agents with support of Kubernetes, Hazelcast, ...
>
> I would love to hear the community about this ! ;)
> I'm planning to start a complete document to provide more details and
> "milestone".
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB







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