Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCF4200D4F for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 14:37:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 3C857160C08; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 83AE9160BFD for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 14:37:19 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 61257 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2017 13:37:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 61244 invoked by uid 99); 6 Dec 2017 13:37:18 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 5B0B0C7399 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.23 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.23 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XNLU616etx57 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com (mail-wm0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id E15F75F253 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 64so7123979wme.3 for ; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 05:37:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=3BTic0UT2TAcGK7xF2maoAG4RqCVPBrEzDRBeAe//2Q=; b=ra5m//VAdDVKdWfrsfUrNDtkX1jG1s9XBSvGSdMym5dfkZR0BuqeWws4EzwFzzZcos pdYgb9niB03r/mEIxuqV3VKPYdGnIfPV1WLIbJd2FT5fh2l5MFve2zKd5E6v4CYFaiKB hzPP/wTTnRvhmj73pTcpIMbg/8fl9mF4T0o8Id+6fBmQqzdiqD+uXc4/2vxVvGLfjsFS 8VgCQfOj7R7tSQximuMOEAM42NpryaFX5imN5kwvwDCfZR9Q/2njLMVRTyUDWuGxX7ro pWqQjSlosuzfRyLDr2UxKp8+C/CKtmJidn7BP6GctZMSRxs3So/8kDgoetvwbAIrMUjF m4OQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3BTic0UT2TAcGK7xF2maoAG4RqCVPBrEzDRBeAe//2Q=; b=ZEVy2Tebf4vKeCIyB+QFE7ns5tFO3suDhLBLlQRIUQQHazQLMPX5ljGCXSZex6qmsf Y+93OnrpW8j/g8UPPb8xO9ozfJpIXldMhatEYFVdNu/o9B1oHyUvqlKzSypKeHXGUcuO UAWnbk2WtuhqGticjLQ2VEPw6X2c7AjFARmoPgcK9vGjIw29CgWKepHyts3F6Twohol8 Q3UJiaEqNj7UqCWNwOIa4wb1jpKHApQr+EogFTXNGqMhFboNH5dVGnY7b0WNLB2bownB Uon1IQGQ1m04hUgcs10R4yqzzHdy9LVo8YbaVLzD3J9vqteif0gQvjYCw8qaSKik1VyS n++w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4xbH4LoPUtYGm5+d0aM44dQwu2X+qXWsIa+uV3YKjMTDqmSGsF iboYr7SpENVbnLMNONNrvquaUseuJqq+FJucZio= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMaLGo3i5X1sfK0Z1lwyn14rHPDSswxLYZAN/YaldfYOOx+rzeH05trjBNxRtszO1EInFEfZ1+cQSgj3LNzoLGg= X-Received: by 10.28.229.19 with SMTP id c19mr12002856wmh.156.1512567427832; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 05:37:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tbain98@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.142.113 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 05:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.142.113 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 05:37:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Tim Bain Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 06:37:07 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DIYPyn8B0tK_RvdRTY96BLEJSfc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Broker Federation with an Active-Active Broker Cluster To: ActiveMQ Users Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145b27e3c20ab055fac0c54" archived-at: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:37:20 -0000 --001a1145b27e3c20ab055fac0c54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Andreas, I'm not familiar enough with either of those QPID products to comment on the ways you're considering using them, but hopefully someone else on here can. Tim On Dec 6, 2017 1:18 AM, "andi welchlin" wrote: > Hello Tim, > > Thank you for the hint. > > Yes, I looked at Artemis and have a little test installation on a > test-machine. I think it is sure that active - active clustering will work. > > Anyway, I never used ActiveMQ or Artemis, before. > > > The second point is that I would like to connect several satellite brokers > to the cluster which share queues and exchanges. The point here is that I > want the clients to be able to work offline and as soon as the connection > is up the messages from persistent queues in the satellite broker are sent > into the cluster and vice versa. Also it would be better to have a single > connection at the satellites because of the firewalls. > > I think that you can realize the satellites with Apache QPID brokers using > routes but they do not support active active clustering. So I was asking > myself if Artemis would be able to handle satellites. > > If it is not possible, then I will think about using the QPID Dispatch > Router but this makes the setup more complicated, I think. > > Kind Regards, > Andreas > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Tim Bain wrote: > > > Not with ActiveMQ 5.x, since it doesn't have a capacity to do an > > active-active cluster, but ActiveMQ Artemis can. Have you looked at it? > > > > Tim > > > > On Dec 5, 2017 7:28 AM, "andi welchlin" wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I would like to setup a active-active cluster of brokers using > ActiveMq. > > > > > > But I also would like to connect single ActiveMq satellite brokers to > > this > > > cluster while they should share some queues and exchanges. So this will > > be > > > pretty much like a federation between some satellite brokers and a > > central > > > broker cluster. Clients will connect to these satellite brokers using > > AMQP. > > > > > > Do you think this would be possible using ActiveMq? > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Andreas > > > > > > --001a1145b27e3c20ab055fac0c54--