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Subject: Re: JBoss AMQ versus Artemis AMQ
From: =?utf-8?Q?Michael_Andr=C3=A9_Pearce?= <michael.andre.pearce@me.com>
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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:23:51 +0100
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To: "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
archived-at: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:24:08 -0000

Hi Oliver=20

In that case I'd suggest when speaking with a vendor you ask them to provide=
 contacts of organisations willing to discuss the benefits they've had with y=
ou, via other channels.

Cheers
Mike

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> On 25 Aug 2017, at 10:44, Oliver B. Fischer <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> wro=
te:
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> Hi Mike,
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> you are right. We are aware of pros and cons you mentioned. The actual rea=
son for asking here on the list is/was to find people who know if it is wort=
h to pay for JBoss AMQ or not. Such a decision is not easy in our environmen=
t because of the consequences.
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> But thanks a lot for your answer
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> Oliver
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>> Am 24.08.17 um 23:28 schrieb Michael Andr=C3=A9 Pearce:
>> Hi Oliver,
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>> Rather than answer this for a specific vendor as Apache spaces are meant t=
o be vendor neutral e.g. shouldn't be pushing /selling their products. You w=
ill find though on activemq site a list of known vendors providing such serv=
ices.
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>> This is the same as probably most Apache open source products where comme=
rcial vendors sell support. Good other examples are the Apache Hadoop projec=
ts with Hadoop vendors, Apache Kafka and Apache Ignite all having vendors ba=
cking those projects.
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>> In general the benefits of Apache Open Source is that you can use the pro=
duct un-restricted and at any scale.
>> Like wise most Apache projects are very active with most critical issues b=
eing patched quite quickly.
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>> User forums are great places to ask questions or discuss issues, where ot=
her users or the devs on the projects help each other.
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>> You of course can always fork and self patch as well. Some large companie=
s go this route as well as the other end of the scale with tech start ups.
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>> The benefits of vendors that provide support for open source project, is t=
hat typically they will have committers on the project or developers who are=
 at least very active, this means they know the code and in cases of critica=
l issue obviously you have them to call upon with commercial SLAs.
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>> Like wise typically vendors will fork the project and bundle a project wi=
th some additional extras or bundle a couple of projects together as a singl=
e product package.
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>> Another part is obviously they tend to provide long term support for part=
icular versions, if required.
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>> To understand further what specific vendors offer obviously it's best to v=
isit their websites or contact them direct.
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>> Cheers
>> Mike
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>>=20
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>>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 21:46, Oliver B. Fischer <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> w=
rote:
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>>> Dear all,
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>>> my colleagues and I are going to build a new distributed system based on=
 Apache Artemis.
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>>> Now we have to answer the question to ourselves if we should go for JBos=
s AMQ with support contract or should we use Apache Artemis directly.
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>>> Is there a good reason to choose JBoss AMQ?
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>>> Would be nice to have your opinions on this.
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>>> Best,
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>>> Oliver
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>>>=20
>>> --=20
>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>> A Sch=C3=B6nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>> X http://xing.to/obf
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> --=20
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Sch=C3=B6nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
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