Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-activemq-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3922E194F9 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20522 invoked by uid 500); 1 Apr 2016 14:01:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-users-archive@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 20480 invoked by uid 500); 1 Apr 2016 14:01:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 20468 invoked by uid 99); 1 Apr 2016 14:01:18 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:01:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 0D8ABC0225 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:01:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.549 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.549 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx2-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JCIQOA8SWA6X for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f169.google.com (mail-io0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by mx2-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B08EB5FACB for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f169.google.com with SMTP id g185so153486565ioa.2 for ; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:01:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to; bh=8UE1V46GKmEUqhFiXTM+9coDE/QAzNqC4wcM9W9N/6c=; b=HZHovcrpeskQHEj+MOSnlUtJ+RuTDB5giWsMfMUUpZE8o/GAQRVepUiFrXYxr9Zbz9 aRcYwEQl1Rinf02iRf1/cRpjx/QSOF3m0zcltI2lTJO9/pqQdifgPk2vRiCaxQYecZwI WkGKagDlOLz1+4o9lQ0zWkN7VNpTM57vrMsdcQfG9IanMw/QzT8JyZBaGfFa3+RC/B57 Ur6Bvw7Zgwm5WU2z/1iZc1++QVbckfTyg7yVrYXKih+ihGlQxVLkHNOhtoml94HV0Jk1 bE7trtd8e2D8WRM9HfYG+i9s26za25Xa6bLN/8E/Fkg4R8FoOR5ZXMEHOCKQ1GnOjUnr PNOg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=8UE1V46GKmEUqhFiXTM+9coDE/QAzNqC4wcM9W9N/6c=; b=hzMEnEUDj7MateqMRrKkLTDeMSGWOvsj+o3AlvF7eVrhDaa06cMpXJbO7duDW51rPs OUVh/UnPe6CtSmawRNzo/aGMllckyS1z3gz5eYTTGiDacIWuTeDD/RAAptdE48QwU2fS /Cd5ZTeHz2P3vFO03E2K3WGHJGFVPMEtpkxNVDYPrTl4U+RNegeXzJbgOBc2Prq+stT0 Qu2YZUmLn+OHQzOz63NbzP02rzehE6jXINJYDIWm65uvGAfA7FNyMiU35aBWGvcPKbNK fchv41XLsJR2APCFKSBiQvTQf+ypOOhwUpCDfY5Gbi/rrkJWFkAGTeu9oMw83qaEyv1Y xOPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIkLc++TTt0qGQUQkKTZ5NbeK5/qDMrHrDaJdjVjUOvufgxjPSwQ12nr9r48BObgEnpFpH5vvSGb53zEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.15.69 with SMTP id x66mr5360418ioi.160.1459519273534; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tbain98@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.35.102 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.35.102 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9f2ad56bd5bb45a6853ed6b878632a8d@USPHLE13US08.global.corp.sap> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:01:13 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TBtwayC79UlspQgE9wYTuNhKPlI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Activemq HA without shared Database or Shared file system From: Tim Bain To: ActiveMQ Users Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ed8e2d7b2e8052f6ccfdb --001a113ed8e2d7b2e8052f6ccfdb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There used to be a share-nothing master-slave configuration but it was buggy and never worked right and has since been removed. Replicated LevelDB is the only option that doesn't have a singleton resource, though you could make the argument that the Zookeeper cluster is a singleton resource spread over multiple hosts, or that JDBC to a clustered Oracle instance is no more of a singleton resource than the Zookeeper cluster. As for whether replicated LevelDB is production ready, it's really a question of how willing you are to experience bugs in production (and then be an active part of the investigation). Replicated LevelDB is far less buggy than it was a few versions back, but they haven't all been shaken out yet, and this mailing list lacks an active LevelDB expert and many LevelDB questions go unanswered, so you'll need to be able to figure out how to get it working mostly on your own (using the wiki and the mailing list archives), and if you hit a bug you may need to investigate it yourself. None of this is insurmountable, it's just a question of your personality, your willingness to invest time into it, and your willingness to possibly run into bugs. If you're able to live with those negatives and you'd like to help make LevelDB better for the community, go for it. If you want something that's as stable as possible and will require the least possible amount of effort from you, go with KahaDB. On Apr 1, 2016 5:37 AM, "James A. Robinson" wrote: > Some people are using it. I wanted to, but decided I wasn't comfortable > relying on it. > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 19:15 Natarajan, Rajeswari < > rajeswari.natarajan@sap.com> wrote: > > > Is replicated level DB store production ready now. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James A. Robinson [mailto:jimr@highwire.org] > > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:19 PM > > To: users@activemq.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Activemq HA without shared Database or Shared file system > > > > I'm not aware of any other choice. I initially tried to use the > replicated > > leveldb system but ran into too many stability issues. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 3:17 PM Natarajan, Rajeswari < > > rajeswari.natarajan@sap.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Would like to know if ActiveMQ supports HA with message replication > > > without the shared DB or shared file system > > > > > > I see that there is a replicated level DB store which requires a zoo > > > keeper. Is there any other mechanism available other than these > options > > > where messages are getting replicated to the standby. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rajeswari > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/replicated-leveldb-store.html > > > > > > --001a113ed8e2d7b2e8052f6ccfdb--