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From Magnus Persson <>
Subject Re: ActiveMQ Can't Execute PHP Code
Date Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:10:18 GMT

As long as you do everything within the context of HTTP you will not be able
to keep a persistant connection to the broker. Comet circumvents this by
having long-running connections to the web server but this has never been
something that the protocol should support - realize that for every open
connection you are also consuming resources related to the whole HTTP
request/response cycle.

Imho, a more viable approach is to embed a Flash application acting as a
bridge between the web page and the broker. I have tinkered with this
before[1] and found it quite easy to work with. This does unfortunately
bring in a dependency on the Flash plugin for your clients. Eventually Web
sockets should replace this approach though.

Camel is used to integrate applications/systems. The concept is based on
routes with endpoints (in/out) and intermediary components that processes
messages as they flow between the endpoints. As an example, you could have
one HTTP endpoint[2] that consumes POST requests, inspects the (XML) body
and depending on a property[3] of this routes it to either a message
queue[4] or sends out an email[5]. I don't see any clear case with camel
being beneficial for a chat (maybe routing messages between different
rooms/topics?). For administrative tasks camel could be a nice
replacement/supplement to cron using the timer or quartz components.

The question if you can have ActiveMQ support PHP is quite broad. Java does
support dynamic languages thru JSR 223 (google found [6]). If you look at it
from a perspective that you have a LAMP installation then you need something
like [1] to connect the PHP rendered web page to the message broker while
avoiding long-running HTTP connections (comet) or polling with


Roger Hoover wrote:
> It sounds like you want to do
> COMET<>.
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:24 PM, CauselessEffect <> wrote:
>> So again, my main question for this thread is can I have ActiveMQ support
>> PHP?  I need user authentication (which I have with PHP) and STOMP-driven
>> PHP events.

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