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From Francois Papon <francois.pa...@openobject.fr>
Subject Re: Board Report Time
Date Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:42:55 GMT
It make sense for the roadmap, may be it could be a dedicated page on
the website?

regards,

François
fpapon@apache.org

Le 11/07/2019 à 15:41, Bruce Snyder a écrit :
> Agreed, a clear roadmap must be defined. We should create a new wiki page
> for an overall ActiveMQ project roadmap that includes info for all the
> ActiveMQ components (ActiveMQ, ActiveMQ Artemis, ActiveMQ NMS and ActiveMQ
> CMS). There is already an ActiveMQ Artemis Roadmap wiki page, is this info
> still relevant/usable (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ACTIVEMQ/ActiveMQ+Artemis+Roadmap
> )?
>
> We need to work openly via the dev@activemq list on this roadmap page so
> that it is defined in the open, is unambiguous and includes the entire
> ActiveMQ community. It's very important that we hear from users of each
> component because these folks have various ActiveMQ components deployed in
> production and we need to know what is important to them instead of
> speaking for them.
>
> As part of the roadmap discussion, we must also decide if one of the goals
> for Artemis is still to be a drop-in replacement for ActiveMQ. I know that
> at one time this was the goal, i.e., allow current ActiveMQ users to drop
> in Artemis and have everything just continue to work. Is there still value
> in this goal?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:27 AM <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Like wise in a roadmap for our project we need to be also clear on the
>> direction for Artemis.
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>> We definitely dont want to be flip flopping. We had spelt out a roadmap
>> last year.
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>> The project already did one big flip flop with apollo. It erodes all end
>> users trust, and they have no clear direction what they should do.
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>> So i would like to see the total vision and roadmap in any proposal if a
>> new roadmap is being presented for the project. So users dont get mixed
>> messages
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>> Get Outlook for Android
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>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:17 AM +0100, <michael.andre.pearce@me.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Before any votes. I think it needs a little more discussion to see where
>> the tide is going. You need to engage people in that discussion.
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>> Likewise i think a little more than just a line or two is needed for a
>> proposal, need to be clear who is committing to what and thoughts about
>> ensuring clients in cms nms and jms all updated and commitment there.
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>> There is no use in a roadmap with no one committing to the work both
>> client and broker side, else its just becomes hot air.
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>> Get Outlook for Android
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>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:14 AM +0100, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <
>> jb@nanthrax.net> wrote:
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>> Fair enough.
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>> Anyway, I'm moving forward on 5.15.10 & 5.16.0 releases preparation
>> reviewing/fixing/merging.
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>> About the "roadmap", I will start a formal vote.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 09/07/2019 12:08, Christopher Shannon wrote:
>>> There was almost no discussion on the proposals for 5.x.  Almost no one
>>> responded and there was no consensus so definitely a -1 from me to
>> include
>>> anything about JMS 2.0, cloud features or any other features like that
>> for
>>> 5.x on the board report until it is discussed and the community has a
>>> consensus.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 1:34 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was feedback i gave some on that thread.
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>>>> Get Outlook for Android
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>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:43 AM +0100, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <
>>>> jb@nanthrax.net> wrote:
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>>>> It's just worth to mention, there's no feedback for now.
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>>>> Anyway, as a community effort, I don't see any blocker. About the
>>>> releases, it's straight forward as it's maintenance and improvements on
>>>> existing branches.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 9 juil. 2019 à 02:44, à 02:44, Clebert Suconic  a écrit:
>>>>> I don’t think the community reached a consensus in order to include
on
>>>>> the
>>>>> report.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to mention it on the report mention the discussion didn’t
>>>>> reach
>>>>> a consensus yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:58 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to contribute with the two e-mails sent about ActiveMQ:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - 5.15.10 & 5.16.0 releases preparation
>>>>>> - Roadmap proposal (JMS 2.0, JDK 11 support, ...)
>>>>>> - Cloud friendly features
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't have the permission to edit the wiki page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you grant permission to my user ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/07/2019 17:40, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>>>>>>> This is a reminder that your contributions to the Board report
are
>>>>>> urgently
>>>>>>> needed this week!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The report is due in two days and currently there have been zero
>>>>>>> contributions. Please take a few minutes to report on project
>>>>> activity
>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120728511
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 7:39 AM Bruce Snyder
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It's time once again to create a report for the ASF Board
for July
>>>>> 2019.
>>>>>>>> Your contribution only takes five minutes, so please report
>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> activity for any of the ActiveMQ projects on the wiki page
below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120728511
>>>>>>>> This report is due to by July 10, 2019.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E);'
>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Clebert Suconic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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