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From Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Website
Date Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:50:13 GMT
Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed
to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for
comparison and perhaps later reference.

Some other small policy + style related comments:
- TM should be added on the logo images.
- The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that
'Apache' is legible.
- Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though the footer
dwarfs it with a lot of free space.
- Some of the images appear heavily down sized and could probably be
tweaked to improve their legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g
the ASF logo used at the bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and
150KB.
- The bottom ASF logo text isnt that readable against the footer
background colour.

Robbie

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <jbertram@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I just updated with some changes to comply with the branding policy. I
> think that's everything. If you see anything that's been left out please
> let me know.
>
> I don't see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemmell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I haven't had a chance to look at the actual content, but from
> > skimming the index page it looks like there are still tweaks needed to
> > satisfy various site policies:
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> >
> > At least some of these are checked automatically:
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This looks ready! What we need to make it official?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <jbertram@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I added some content to the landing page and pushed it to the staging
> > > > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for *both*
> > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for users.
> > I've got
> > > > other content changes ready to push, but I wanted to get this out
> > first for
> > > > review & discussion.
> > > >
> > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was
> > > > supposed to be full of company logos for two reasons:
> > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on that.
> > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to use
> > another
> > > > company's logo on our website and make claims about their use of
> > ActiveMQ.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <andy.tayls67@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was
> > > > > mentioned at one point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people could
> > contribute
> > > > > so we can have a better website sooner rather than later.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1], it's
> > currently
> > > > > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim, use the US
> > > > > mirror[2].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Martyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/
> > > > > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a GitHub
> > mirror
> > > > > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and should have
> > the
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately directory and a message on
> > the
> > > > > > > homepage shortly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> +1
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Bruce
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > >> clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > - commit this on git
> > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.
> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a few times.
> > Having the
> > > > > > old
> > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the
> > migration.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <
> > > > > > >> > michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > >> > mtaylor@redhat.com> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > > > > > >> > dev@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: Website
> > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the home page of the new
> > > > > > website,
> > > > > > >> > >> directing users to the old site?
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > >> bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they
> > posted
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >> > their
> > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > mtaylor@redhat.com>
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > >> > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a
> > combination of
> > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > >> > issues
> > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible
> > somewhere such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > wiki.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around
> > completely,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> > believe we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the older
> > versions in
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > >> > way. So,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > first thought that came to mind is a search
> > capability in
> > > > > > order
> > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > >> > >> > users
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also
> > keep the
> > > > > old
> > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > >> > >> > intact
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g.,
> > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the
> > advantage of a
> > > > > > >> search
> > > > > > >> > >> > feature
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > is
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just
> > for older
> > > > > > >> > stuff. We
> > > > > > >> > >> > > might
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure the search to allow users to
> > select
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > version of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just
> > some
> > > > > > >> thoughts.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site
> > functional
> > > > > > ASAP,
> > > > > > >> > but
> > > > > > >> > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We
> > should not
> > > > > > >> abandon
> > > > > > >> > users
> > > > > > >> > >> > > of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site into
> > the
> > > > > > >> gitbook
> > > > > > >> > had
> > > > > > >> > >> > all
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I
> > like the
> > > > > > idea
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >> > >> > keeping
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new
> > site.  This
> > > > > > >> ensures
> > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the info they need, but let's
> > us move
> > > > > > >> > forward
> > > > > > >> > >> > with
> > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting
> > home page
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > the new
> > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page
> > ("Existing
> > > > > > >> users
> > > > > > >> > >> > looking
> > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If
> > we are
> > > > > > able
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular page,
> > we can
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > >> > info
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how
> > much
> > > > > > >> effort
> > > > > > >> > would
> > > > > > >> > >> > be
> > > > > > >> > >> > > involved, there is already a search feature in the
> > gitbook
> > > > > > >> document
> > > > > > >> > >> > (linked
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder content
> > and add
> > > > > > >> links
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home page)?
> > We
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >> go
> > > > > > >> > live
> > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through the nice to
> > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > think once we're live and the code is available, the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > >> will
> > > > > > >> > be
> > > > > > >> > >> > more
> > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > >> mtaylor@redhat.com
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git
> > > > > repos.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for
> > what
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > happen
> > > > > > >> > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older
> > content.
> > > > > > Can
> > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for the
> > pages,
> > > > > > key
> > > > > > >> > >> > features,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to
> > these?  I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > >> > take
> > > > > > >> > >> > care
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more
> > > > > experience
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> > NMS,
> > > > > > >> > >> > CMS
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the
> > project home
> > > > > > >> pages?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get
> > the new
> > > > > > site
> > > > > > >> > running
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > even
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve
> > on it.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > >> > >> > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic
> > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo created:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert
> > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to
> > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert
> > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin
> > Bertram
> > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > jbertram@redhat.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository"
> > > > > option
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I
> > clicked it
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > logged
> > > > > > >> > >> > > in,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC
> > > > > chairs.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert
> > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM
> > Clebert
> > > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on
> > > > > creating
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > repo at
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > apache?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something
> > what to
> > > > > > do..
> > > > > > >> > but so
> > > > > > >> > >> > far
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > no
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone
> > here
> > > > > > knows
> > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > >> > better
> > > > > > >> > >> > > way
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
> > Clebert
> > > > > > >> Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at
> > apache
> > > > > infra
> > > > > > >> > list,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > asking
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM
> > > > > > Christopher
> > > > > > >> > Shannon
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <christopher.l.shannon@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the website
> > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can get
> > the
> > > > > new
> > > > > > >> > website
> > > > > > >> > >> > live
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such as
> > what
> > > > > > Artemis
> > > > > > >> > is,
> > > > > > >> > >> > etc.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:13 AM
> > > > > Clebert
> > > > > > >> > Suconic <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next week.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09
> > PM
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > Snyder <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very helpful
> > if you
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > >> > create
> > > > > > >> > >> > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > repo
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into
> > there.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at
> > 7:58 AM
> > > > > > >> Clebert
> > > > > > >> > >> > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I can
> > do to
> > > > > > >> expedie
> > > > > > >> > this?
> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > you
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > are
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > care of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at
> > 1:52 AM
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > michael.andre.pearce@me.com
> > > > > > >> .invalid>
> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted because
> > its
> > > > > using
> > > > > > >> > jekyll i
> > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > use
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you
> > could host
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >> > asf
> > > > > > >> > >> > git,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clone
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and then
> > use
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > >> > pages,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > simply
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > asking infra
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to the
> > github
> > > > > > >> pages.
> > > > > > >> > Not
> > > > > > >> > >> > > sure
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > if
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably
> > easiest.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung
> > Galaxy
> > > > > > >> > smartphone.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original
> > message
> > > > > > >> > --------From:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > Date:
> > > > > > >> > 02/10/2018
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > 21:11
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev@activemq.apache.org
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > >> Re:
> > > > > > >> > >> > Website
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job, MIchael! I
> > like
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > >> > of
> > > > > > >> > >> > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > site.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly work
> > to be
> > > > > > done
> > > > > > >> > as you
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of the
> > current
> > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > >> > 100%
> > > > > > >> > >> > > just
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > yet. I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect,
> > but we
> > > > > need
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > >> > provide
> > > > > > >> > >> > > an
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > way to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we know
> > exists
> > > > > via
> > > > > > >> > search
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > functionality
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action
> > should be to
> > > > > > >> move
> > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > source
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > into
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has access to
> > it,
> > > > > > >> allowing
> > > > > > >> > >> > others
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > contribute.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy straight
> > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> git
> > > > > > >> > repo
> > > > > > >> > >> > at
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > some
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point, too.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently
> > > > > > investigated
> > > > > > >> > how to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > deploy
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > static
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the sub-domain
> > at the
> > > > > > >> ASF?
> > > > > > >> > If
> > > > > > >> > >> > not,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > will
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at
> > 8:40
> > > > > AM
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > michael.andre.pearce@me.com
> > > > > > >> > .invalid>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to get
> > the
> > > > > ball
> > > > > > >> > rolling
> > > > > > >> > >> > > again
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great progress
> > made on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > initial
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > code
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > base
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created a
> > responsive
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  design based on
> > bootstrap
> > > > > > >> which
> > > > > > >> > looks
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > pretty
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > on both
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop, bringing us
> > into
> > > > > > 2018
> > > > > > >> > ;).  All
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site by Bruce
> > > > > > already,
> > > > > > >> > and now
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > lives
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > under
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5
> > project
> > > > > > page.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously
> > still
> > > > > some
> > > > > > >> work
> > > > > > >> > to do
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > but I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early feedback
> > and
> > > > > > >> hopefully
> > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > some
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > input
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for each
> > project.
> > > > > What
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to have
> > happen to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > >> > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > > live.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get this
> > perfect,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > if we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and kicking, we can
> > improve
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > iteratively
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > over
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here your
> > > > > > thoughts,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code is here:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a demohttps://
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung
> > Galaxy
> > > > > > >> > smartphone.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
> > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:
> > http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > > > > > >> > http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
> > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/
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