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From Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Website
Date Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:38:11 GMT
Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a combination of JIRA issues plus a
list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere such as the wiki.

Seeing as how we are moving the website around completely, I believe we
need to include the docs to support the older versions in some way. So, the
first thought that came to mind is a search capability in order for users
to find them easier. Another idea, we could also keep the old site intact
and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g., 5x.activemq.apache.org,
activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the advantage of a search feature is
that it would be useful across the site, not just for older stuff. We might
even be able structure the search to allow users to select a version of the
docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just some thoughts.

I agree that we should try to get the new site functional ASAP, but that
should not eliminate the old site entirely. We should not abandon users of
older versions.

Bruce

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com> wrote:

> Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git repos.
>
> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for what needs to happen to
> move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
>
> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older content.  Can you elaborate
> on this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages, key features,
> users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to these?  I could take care of
> the Artemis side of things, if people with more experience in NMS, CMS and
> 5.x could come up with some content for the project home pages?
>
> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new site running even
> if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > How to delete one now ?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > >
> > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > New repo created:
> > > >
> > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram <
> > jbertram@redhat.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository" option on
> > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked it and logged
in,
> but
> > > > apparently
> > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC chairs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on creating a
repo at
> apache?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something what to do..
but so far no
> > > > response. I
> > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone here knows
a better way
> to
> > > > handle
> > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at apache infra
list, asking
> for
> > > > guidance on
> > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM Christopher
Shannon
> > > > > > > > > > <christopher.l.shannon@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the website discussion
restarted.  I
> > > > think it
> > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can get the
new website live and
> > > have
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > > > > > information on there such as what Artemis
is, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:13 AM Clebert
Suconic <
> > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next week.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09 PM
Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very helpful
if you could create a git
> > repo
> > > > for it
> > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58
AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I can
do to expedie this? or you
> > are
> > > > taking
> > > > > > > > care of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018
at 1:52 AM
> michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted because
its using jekyll i could
> use
> > > > github
> > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you
could host it on asf git,
> have
> > > the
> > > > github
> > > > > > > > clone
> > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and
then use github pages, simply
> > > > asking infra
> > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to
the github pages. Not sure if
> > > thats
> > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably easiest.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung
Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original
message --------From: Bruce
> > > Snyder
> > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
Date: 02/10/2018  21:11
> > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev@activemq.apache.org
Subject: Re: Website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job, MIchael!
I like the look of this
> site.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly
work to be done as you
> > mentioned,
> > > > so I
> > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place
of the current site 100% just
> > yet. I
> > > > agree
> > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect,
but we need to provide an
> > easy
> > > > way to
> > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we
know exists via search
> > functionality
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action
should be to move the source
> > into
> > > > an ASF
> > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has access
to it, allowing others to
> > > > contribute.
> > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy straight
from the git repo at some
> > > > point, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently
investigated how to deploy
> a
> > > > static
> > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the sub-domain
at the ASF? If not, I
> will
> > > > dig into
> > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2,
2018 at 8:40 AM
> > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted
to get the ball rolling again
> on
> > > this
> > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great
progress made on the initial code
> > base
> > > > we
> > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created
a responsive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  design based
on bootstrap which looks pretty
> > > nice
> > > > on both
> > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop, bringing
us into 2018 ;).  All the
> > > > content was
> > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site
by Bruce already, and now lives
> > > under
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ
5 project page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously
still some work to do but I
> > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early
feedback and hopefully get some
> > input
> > > on
> > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for
each project.  What
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to
have happen to make this live.
> I'd
> > > > prefer not
> > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to
get this perfect, but if we could
> get
> > > an
> > > > MVP for
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and kicking,
we can improve it iteratively
> over
> > > > time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to
here your thoughts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code is
here:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a demohttps://
> > > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from
my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > );'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<
> http://bruceblog.org/
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > );'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > perl -e 'print
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
> > >
> > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic
> >
>


-- 
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'

ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder

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