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From Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Website
Date Fri, 19 Oct 2018 21:38:56 GMT
Check out the Camel website and the message that they posted about their
website changes that are underway:

https://camel.apache.org/

Bruce

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a combination of JIRA issues
> plus a
> > list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere such as the wiki.
> >
> > Seeing as how we are moving the website around completely, I believe we
> > need to include the docs to support the older versions in some way. So,
> the
> > first thought that came to mind is a search capability in order for users
> > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also keep the old site intact
> > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g., 5x.activemq.apache.org,
> > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the advantage of a search feature
> > is
> > that it would be useful across the site, not just for older stuff. We
> might
> > even be able structure the search to allow users to select a version of
> the
> > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just some thoughts.
> >
> > I agree that we should try to get the new site functional ASAP, but that
> > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We should not abandon users
> of
> > older versions.
> >
> +1 Bruce.
>
> I had thought that the export of the current site into the gitbook had all
> the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I like the idea of keeping
> the old site running and link to it from the new site.  This ensures
> existing users have all the info they need, but let's us move forward with
> new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home page for the new
> one and add a link to old website AMQ project page ("Existing users looking
> for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If we are able to get
> some stats on number of accesses to a particular page, we can use that info
> to prioritise porting older content.
>
> Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how much effort would be
> involved, there is already a search feature in the gitbook document (linked
> to on the project page).
>
> How about we fill in the existing placeholder content and add links to the
> old sites from each project page (and the home page)?  We could go live
> with this?  Then start working through the nice to haves/criticals.  I
> think once we're live and the code is available, the community will be more
> inclined to report/fixing issues.
>
> Cheers
>
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git repos.
> > >
> > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for what needs to happen to
> > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
> > >
> > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older content.  Can you
> > elaborate
> > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages, key features,
> > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to these?  I could take care
> > of
> > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more experience in NMS, CMS
> > and
> > > 5.x could come up with some content for the project home pages?
> > >
> > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new site running
> > even
> > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > How to delete one now ?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > New repo created:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram <
> > > > jbertram@redhat.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository" option
on
> > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked it
and logged
> in,
> > > but
> > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC chairs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert Suconic
<
> > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on creating
a repo at
> > > apache?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something what
to do.. but so far
> > no
> > > > > > response. I
> > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone here
knows a better
> way
> > > to
> > > > > > handle
> > > > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM Clebert
Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at apache
infra list,
> asking
> > > for
> > > > > > guidance on
> > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM
Christopher Shannon
> > > > > > > > > > > > <christopher.l.shannon@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the website
discussion
> > restarted.  I
> > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can
get the new website live
> > and
> > > > > have
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such
as what Artemis is, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:13
AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next
week.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018
at 5:09 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very
helpful if you could create a
> > git
> > > > repo
> > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved
into there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4,
2018 at 7:58 AM Clebert Suconic
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything
I can do to expedie this? or
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > taking
> > > > > > > > > > care of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private
repo?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct
3, 2018 at 1:52 AM
> > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you
noted because its using jekyll i
> could
> > > use
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option
is you could host it on asf git,
> > > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > > > clone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with
code and then use github pages,
> > simply
> > > > > > asking infra
> > > > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain
point to the github pages. Not
> sure
> > if
> > > > > thats
> > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably
easiest.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent
from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------
Original message --------From:
> Bruce
> > > > > Snyder
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
Date: 02/10/2018
> > 21:11
> > > > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev@activemq.apache.org
Subject: Re: Website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great
job, MIchael! I like the look of this
> > > site.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's
certainly work to be done as you
> > > > mentioned,
> > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take
the place of the current site 100%
> just
> > > > yet. I
> > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need
to be perfect, but we need to provide
> an
> > > > easy
> > > > > > way to
> > > > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information
we know exists via search
> > > > functionality
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first
action should be to move the
> source
> > > > into
> > > > > > an ASF
> > > > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone
has access to it, allowing others
> to
> > > > > > contribute.
> > > > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to
deploy straight from the git repo at
> > some
> > > > > > point, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone
recently investigated how to
> > deploy
> > > a
> > > > > > static
> > > > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo
to the sub-domain at the ASF? If not,
> I
> > > will
> > > > > > dig into
> > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue,
Oct 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM
> > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I just wanted to get the ball rolling
> again
> > > on
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
some great progress made on the initial
> > code
> > > > base
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
we've created a responsive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
 design based on bootstrap which looks
> > pretty
> > > > > nice
> > > > > > on both
> > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
desktop, bringing us into 2018 ;).  All
> the
> > > > > > content was
> > > > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
current site by Bruce already, and now
> > lives
> > > > > under
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
on the ActiveMQ 5 project page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
There's obviously still some work to do
> > but I
> > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
some early feedback and hopefully get
> some
> > > > input
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
pages for each project.  What
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
 do need to have happen to make this
> live.
> > > I'd
> > > > > > prefer not
> > > > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
trying to get this perfect, but if we
> could
> > > get
> > > > > an
> > > > > > MVP for
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
and kicking, we can improve it
> iteratively
> > > over
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I'd love to here your thoughts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
The code is here:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
And a demohttps://
> > > > > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl
-e 'print
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > );'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ
in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:
http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > );'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<
> http://bruceblog.org/
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > >
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > );'
> > > > >
> > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> >
> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >
>


-- 
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'

ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder

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