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From Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com>
Subject Re: Website
Date Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:38:48 GMT
How about an equivalent message on the home page of the new website,
directing users to the old site?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Check out the Camel website and the message that they posted about their
> website changes that are underway:
>
> https://camel.apache.org/
>
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a combination of JIRA issues
> > plus a
> > > list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere such as the wiki.
> > >
> > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around completely, I believe we
> > > need to include the docs to support the older versions in some way. So,
> > the
> > > first thought that came to mind is a search capability in order for
> users
> > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also keep the old site
> intact
> > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g., 5x.activemq.apache.org,
> > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the advantage of a search
> feature
> > > is
> > > that it would be useful across the site, not just for older stuff. We
> > might
> > > even be able structure the search to allow users to select a version of
> > the
> > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just some thoughts.
> > >
> > > I agree that we should try to get the new site functional ASAP, but
> that
> > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We should not abandon users
> > of
> > > older versions.
> > >
> > +1 Bruce.
> >
> > I had thought that the export of the current site into the gitbook had
> all
> > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I like the idea of
> keeping
> > the old site running and link to it from the new site.  This ensures
> > existing users have all the info they need, but let's us move forward
> with
> > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home page for the new
> > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page ("Existing users
> looking
> > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If we are able to get
> > some stats on number of accesses to a particular page, we can use that
> info
> > to prioritise porting older content.
> >
> > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how much effort would
> be
> > involved, there is already a search feature in the gitbook document
> (linked
> > to on the project page).
> >
> > How about we fill in the existing placeholder content and add links to
> the
> > old sites from each project page (and the home page)?  We could go live
> > with this?  Then start working through the nice to haves/criticals.  I
> > think once we're live and the code is available, the community will be
> more
> > inclined to report/fixing issues.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git repos.
> > > >
> > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for what needs to happen
> to
> > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
> > > >
> > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older content.  Can you
> > > elaborate
> > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages, key
> features,
> > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to these?  I could take
> care
> > > of
> > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more experience in NMS,
> CMS
> > > and
> > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the project home pages?
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new site running
> > > even
> > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How to delete one now ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <
> bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > New repo created:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram
<
> > > > > jbertram@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository"
option on
> > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked
it and logged
> > in,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC chairs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert Suconic
<
> > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert
Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure
on creating a repo at
> > > > apache?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something
what to do.. but so
> far
> > > no
> > > > > > > response. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone
here knows a better
> > way
> > > > to
> > > > > > > handle
> > > > > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread
at apache infra list,
> > asking
> > > > for
> > > > > > > guidance on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01
AM Christopher Shannon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <christopher.l.shannon@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the
website discussion
> > > restarted.  I
> > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if
we can get the new website
> live
> > > and
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there
such as what Artemis is,
> etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018
at 9:13 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it
next week.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4,
2018 at 5:09 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be
very helpful if you could create
> a
> > > git
> > > > > repo
> > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code
moved into there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct
4, 2018 at 7:58 AM Clebert
> Suconic
> > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce:
Anything I can do to expedie this?
> or
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > taking
> > > > > > > > > > > care of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private
repo?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed,
Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM
> > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
If you noted because its using jekyll i
> > could
> > > > use
> > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
One option is you could host it on asf
> git,
> > > > have
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > > > > clone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do
with code and then use github pages,
> > > simply
> > > > > > > asking infra
> > > > > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain
point to the github pages. Not
> > sure
> > > if
> > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it
is probably easiest.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
-------- Original message --------From:
> > Bruce
> > > > > > Snyder
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
Date: 02/10/2018
> > > 21:11
> > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev@activemq.apache.org
Subject: Re:
> Website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Great job, MIchael! I like the look of
> this
> > > > site.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
There's certainly work to be done as you
> > > > > mentioned,
> > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
take the place of the current site 100%
> > just
> > > > > yet. I
> > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
need to be perfect, but we need to
> provide
> > an
> > > > > easy
> > > > > > > way to
> > > > > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
information we know exists via search
> > > > > functionality
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
The first action should be to move the
> > source
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > an ASF
> > > > > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
everyone has access to it, allowing
> others
> > to
> > > > > > > contribute.
> > > > > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
us to deploy straight from the git repo
> at
> > > some
> > > > > > > point, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Has anyone recently investigated how to
> > > deploy
> > > > a
> > > > > > > static
> > > > > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
repo to the sub-domain at the ASF? If
> not,
> > I
> > > > will
> > > > > > > dig into
> > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Bruce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM
> > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
<michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> I just wanted to get the ball rolling
> > again
> > > > on
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> some great progress made on the initial
> > > code
> > > > > base
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> we've created a responsive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>  design based on bootstrap which looks
> > > pretty
> > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > on both
> > > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> desktop, bringing us into 2018 ;).  All
> > the
> > > > > > > content was
> > > > > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> current site by Bruce already, and now
> > > lives
> > > > > > under
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> on the ActiveMQ 5 project page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> There's obviously still some work to do
> > > but I
> > > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> some early feedback and hopefully get
> > some
> > > > > input
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> pages for each project.  What
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>  do need to have happen to make this
> > live.
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > > prefer not
> > > > > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> trying to get this perfect, but if we
> > could
> > > > get
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > MVP for
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> and kicking, we can improve it
> > iteratively
> > > > over
> > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> I'd love to here your thoughts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> The code is here:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> And a demohttps://
> > > > > > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
--
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
perl -e 'print
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > );'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert
Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > );'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in
Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<
> > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > >
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > );'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > perl -e 'print
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
> > >
> > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>

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