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From Christopher Shannon <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Thoughts on refactoring the ActiveMQ website
Date Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:15:15 GMT
The work done so far looks good to me.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sorry I missed the previous WebEx discuss on this topic. I will do my
> best to attend the next one.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:52 AM, Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Bruce, All
>>
>> We organised a webex discussion on the dev list[1] where we discussed
>> Michael's proposal and created a bunch of JIRA[2] that we think are needed
>> in order to move forward with the proposal.  Unfortunately only a handful
>> of people attended.  There is concern that a lot of work will be put into
>> building a new site based on Michael's proposal only for it to get -1 at
>> the last minute.  For this reason, can I suggest that people take some time
>> to look into what has been done already by checking out the git repo as
>> Bruce suggested, or we schedule another webex session where Michael can
>> talk about his proposal.  We can then take a vote as to whether or not this
>> is an approach we want to move forward with and what the requirements are
>> to go live.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> [1] http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Website-Discussion-
>> td4737173.html
>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-6912
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:29 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Everyone should take a look at the gitbook that Mike put together. It's a
>> > great first example.
>> >
>> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-web/pull/3
>> >
>> > Please take 10 minutes to clone the repo, switch to the branch, install
>> > gitbook, run gitbook and peruse the docs.
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm sorry about the long delays in getting the official export from
>> > > Confluence, but it took this long to get some resolution on the issue.
>> > >
>> > > I now have a full HTML export from Confluence with the exception of the
>> > > Navigation page. You can grab the zip file of the HTML at the following
>> > URL:
>> > >
>> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qoTC9KMw8oIzGWwBW1X-
>> > > oDtZxt8mFZlX/view?usp=sharing
>> > >
>> > > Bruce
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> +1
>> > >>
>> > >> Bruce
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Michael André Pearce <
>> > >> michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi All,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It’s been a bit quiet on the front of this effort.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I’d like to bump this a bit to get some feedback on the current
>> > >>> examples, and try agree a plan going forwards and spread the work.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I was speaking with Martyn the other week and we think maybe a
brief
>> > >>> webex to demo what’s been done so far and then discuss.
>> > >>> Martyn’s offered he can host this using his bluejeans account
>> (thanks)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> We are thinking of organising this for the week of 19th Feb.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Any specific people who want to be involved can or cannot make?
If
>> not
>> > >>> I’ll sync up with Martyn to agree and then post a time and date.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Cheers
>> > >>> Mike
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > On 20 Dec 2017, at 01:26, Michael André Pearce <
>> > >>> michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Just FYI have sent a PR with a link to my branch of this export
now
>> > in
>> > >>> a GitBook form still needs a lot of TLC but have tried to get a
large
>> > bulk
>> > >>> done. To provide some skeleton for 5.x documents.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >> On 18 Dec 2017, at 20:26, Michael André Pearce <
>> > >>> michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >> Yeah, unfortunately the tool i found wanted just html
it blew up
>> > when
>> > >>> trying to use modified.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >> Like wise there was a couple of pages it couldn’t convert
due to a
>> > >>> css file on import issue but this wasn’t that many.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>> On 18 Dec 2017, at 19:15, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Nice job, based on my spot check of a handful of files,
it looks
>> > much
>> > >>> >>> better. But we will still need to manually fix all
the valid
>> > tables.
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Have you had a chance to look at the other branches
that Dan Kulp
>> > >>> provided?
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Michael André Pearce
<
>> > >>> >>> michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>> I’ve had some luck auto generating MD files.
>> > >>> >>>>
>> > >>> >>>> Needs some cleanup which probably the worst can
be bash
>> scripted.
>> > >>> >>>>
>> > >>> >>>> Have sent a PR back to the activemq-web on github
for others to
>> > see.
>> > >>> >>>>
>> > >>> >>>> Mike
>> > >>> >>>>
>> > >>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>> >>>>
>> > >>> >>>>> On 14 Dec 2017, at 16:31, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>> Thanks, Dan. So far I only see the body.storage
branch (the
>> > others
>> > >>> should
>> > >>> >>>>> propagate in time). But I see that it's already
more
>> > comprehensive
>> > >>> than
>> > >>> >>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>> HTML that I pushed because it contains all
the directories. We
>> > >>> should
>> > >>> >>>>> probably wipe out the master branch and choose
one of yours as
>> > the
>> > >>> new
>> > >>> >>>>> master branch.
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Daniel
Kulp <
>> dkulp@apache.org>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> I hacked the Confluence exporter a bit
to grab the page
>> content
>> > in
>> > >>> >>>>>> different formats so we can see if one
is easier to migrate or
>> > >>> >>>> similar.   I
>> > >>> >>>>>> just pushed 3 new branches to this repo:
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> body.only - this is basically the same
HTML, but with all the
>> > >>> “wrapper”
>> > >>> >>>>>> stuff removed.   Just the HTML of the
body content.   So no
>> > >>> navigation
>> > >>> >>>> or
>> > >>> >>>>>> header/footer, etc…
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> body.storage - this is the raw storage
format of the data from
>> > >>> >>>>>> confluence.   Things like code snippets
are in storage format
>> > >>> >>>>>> (<structured-macro name=“code”
…>), etc.
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> body.view - confluence has a “body.view”
mode that is between
>> > the
>> > >>> >>>>>> “storage” format and not really the
exported HTML.     The
>> > >>> structured
>> > >>> >>>>>> macros are expanded a bit (<script
class=“brush: java”…), but
>> > not
>> > >>> >>>> really in
>> > >>> >>>>>> final HTML form either.
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> Anyway, if interested in converting content,
one of the above
>> > >>> might be a
>> > >>> >>>>>> better starting point.
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> Dan
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Bruce
Snyder <
>> > >>> bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> The HTML is available in the repo
now. This HTML is just
>> what I
>> > >>> grabbed
>> > >>> >>>>>>> from the public directory. Even if
it's not comprehensive,
>> it's
>> > >>> good
>> > >>> >>>>>> enough
>> > >>> >>>>>>> for hacking around to figure out what
we'd like to do.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> In the meantime, I'm still working
with ASF Infra to figure
>> out
>> > >>> why the
>> > >>> >>>>>>> Confluence export is failing.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:51 PM,
Bruce Snyder <
>> > >>> bruce.snyder@gmail.com
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Yep, that is correct, Dan:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-web.git
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> I pushed my changes to the repo.
Now they just need to
>> > >>> propagate to
>> > >>> >>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Github web UI.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:28
AM, Daniel Kulp <
>> > >>> dkulp@apache.org>
>> > >>> >>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Isn’t the push address supposed
to be:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-web.git
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Dan
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 1:15
PM, Bruce Snyder <
>> > >>> bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the suggestion,
but it looks like I do not
>> > have
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> permissions
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> either. I will contact
ASF Infra for assistance.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at
2:41 AM, Martyn Taylor <
>> > >>> mtaylor@redhat.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017
at 4:00 AM, Bruce Snyder <
>> > >>> >>>>>> bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I had the following
empty git repo created to hold the
>> > HTML
>> > >>> from
>> > >>> >>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> current website:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-web
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I have
a conundrum -- content cannot be pushed
>> > >>> directly
>> > >>> >>>> to
>> > >>> >>>>>> a
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Github ASF repo.
Content can only be added via pull
>> > request
>> > >>> but
>> > >>> >>>>>> Github
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> does
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not allow a pull
request on an empty repo.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bruce, have you tried
pushing directly to the ASF repo.
>> > i.e.
>> > >>> >>>> git://
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> git.apache.org/activemq-web.git
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is the workflow
we currently use, we push directly
>> to
>> > >>> the ASF
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> repo.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> PRs are really only
used for review and discussion.  I
>> > tried
>> > >>> to
>> > >>> >>>> push
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> directly this morning
but looks like I don't have write
>> > >>> >>>> permissions.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how
to get the HTML into the repo? I guess
>> I
>> > >>> could
>> > >>> >>>> ask
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> ASF
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Infra to push
it.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 12,
2017 at 8:17 PM, Bruce Snyder <
>> > >>> >>>>>> bruce.snyder@gmail.com
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going
to address all the questions to me in this
>> > single
>> > >>> >>>> reply.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My original
suggestion was that we export the HTML from
>> > >>> >>>> Confluence,
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> convert to
Markdown and put the Markdown and the images
>> > in
>> > >>> a git
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> repo.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Markdown is
much easier to edit than raw HTML,
>> especially
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> >>>> HTML
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> exported
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from Confluence
(blech!). The idea was that we could
>> use
>> > >>> Jekyll +
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> SAAS
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> craft a new
website. In fact, Michael Andre Pearce
>> > >>> produced a
>> > >>> >>>>>> mockup
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this using
the Apache Metro website as an example
>> > (because
>> > >>> it
>> > >>> >>>>>> already
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> use of Jekyll
+ SAAS). It was enough to convince me
>> that
>> > we
>> > >>> >>>> should
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> take
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this path,
so I started looking into doing a full, new
>> > >>> export of
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages to HTML.
If you have not seen Michael's mockup,
>> you
>> > >>> should
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> really
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I manually
grabbed the raw HTML that is
>> automagically
>> > >>> >>>> exported
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> from
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
and is hosting the current site that we see
>> at
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org.
I did some testing on it
>> > using
>> > >>> >>>>>> text2html
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the conversion
it does is pretty awful and would
>> require
>> > a
>> > >>> lot of
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> hand
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> work
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix it.
So, we discussed the point that there are
>> > 1600+
>> > >>> pages
>> > >>> >>>> of
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> HTML
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> manually edit.
But I later realized that it was only
>> > about
>> > >>> 950
>> > >>> >>>> HTML
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> pages
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (from what
I can tell so far).
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, Dan
Kulp found a Confluence HTML to raw HTML
>> > >>> converter
>> > >>> >>>> built
>> > >>> >>>>>> on
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> top
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of PanDoc.
So, I have also been trying to export the
>> HTML
>> > >>> from
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in order to
try out the PanDoc converter (it works
>> based
>> > >>> on the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> export function
which is different from how the HTML is
>> > >>> >>>>>> automagically
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> converted).
Unfortunately, I am running into a
>> > >>> >>>> NullPointerException
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> from
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence.
ASF Infra is telling me that the NPE is due
>> > to
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>> CDATA
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> in
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> search function
on the Navigation page and is
>> suggesting
>> > >>> that the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is to remove
the Navigation page. The problem with this
>> > >>> >>>> suggestion
>> > >>> >>>>>> is
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it would fundamentally
remove all the navigation on the
>> > >>> >>>> right-hand
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> side
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the site --
not what we want.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have also
given some thought to the idea that
>> removing
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>> current
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> site
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will break
all links to old site. This is something
>> that
>> > >>> cannot
>> > >>> >>>> be
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked
and must be prevented as we do not want to
>> > >>> leave users
>> > >>> >>>>>> who
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bookmarked
a page high and dry. This is a fairly easy
>> > >>> problem to
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> solve
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> this
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> using some
mod_rewrite rules, the question is if ASF
>> > Infra
>> > >>> is
>> > >>> >>>>>> willing
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> allow us to
deploy such custom rules. This should be
>> > >>> investigated
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> when
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> we
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> get to that
point, but we are not there yet. First, we
>> > >>> need to
>> > >>> >>>>>> decide
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> best path
forward based on what I have described above
>> in
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> preceding
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraphs.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec
12, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Martyn Taylor <
>> > >>> >>>>>> mtaylor@redhat.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was
thinking there would be a single css file for
>> all
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> >>>> pages.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> But
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
seen the files yet. Let's have a play around
>> > when
>> > >>> Bruce
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> pushes
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> export.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12
Dec 2017 5:30 pm, "Michael André Pearce" <
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> michael.andre.pearce@me.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What’s
1600 pages between friends....
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
agree it will be easier to covert to md than to
>> start
>> > >>> doing
>> > >>> >>>> css
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s
all from a wiki anyhow so it’s can’t be that far
>> > >>> off.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
be good to get some samples (eg 50 pages) if not
>> all
>> > >>> just to
>> > >>> >>>>>> try
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
what it is like.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
12 Dec 2017, at 17:04, Clebert Suconic <
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Exporting to MD and creating a gitbook seems like a
>> > big
>> > >>> >>>> task, I
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
tool we use will cause a bunch of styling/content
>> > >>> issues.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
At least initially, how about we just create a nice
>> > >>> landing
>> > >>> >>>>>> page
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
brings the ActiveMQ site and Artemis site together,
>> > and
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> refresh/align
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
existing content with some CSS?
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I was just looking for the minimal effort task. I
>> > >>> thought that
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
converting these pages into a doc would be easier
>> than
>> > >>> >>>>>> converting
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> them
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
to another .css...
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
if the conversion needed to be done anyways... I
>> > >>> thought .md
>> > >>> >>>>>> would
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
easier and having a better final presentation.
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in
Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> > >>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>> > >>> >>>>>> "YC;VT*"
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> );'
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action:
http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> > 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>> > >>> >>>> "YC;VT*"
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> );'
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
<http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>> > >>> >>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>> > >>> "YC;VT*"
>> > >>> >>>> );'
>> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>> > >>> >>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> > >>> >>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>> --
>> > >>> >>>>> perl -e 'print
>> > >>> >>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>> > "YC;VT*"
>> > >>> );'
>> > >>> >>>>>
>> > >>> >>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>> >>>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> --
>> > >>> >>> perl -e 'print
>> > >>> >>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>> > "YC;VT*"
>> > >>> );'
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >>> >>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >>> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> > >> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>> > >>
>> > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > >> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> > > 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>> > >
>> > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > perl -e 'print
>> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
>> >
>> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder

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