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Bruce On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Clebert Suconic wrote: > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:57 PM Bruce Snyder > wrote: > > > I have suggested a similar tool that will read the ActiveMQ 5.x XML > > configuration and convert it to an equivalent Artemis config. I think > this > > would be easier to create than making Artemis read ActiveMQ 5.x configs= . > > > > For some reason I thought that Artemis supported KahaDB, but I'm not su= re > > where I got this. I thought I read it somewhere. I wonder how difficult > it > > would be to make Artemis support KahaDB as it is still the fastest > message > > store, correct? > > > > Artemis journal it=E2=80=99s faster. We don=E2=80=99t currently support= KahaDB. > > > > > > Bruce > > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Christopher Shannon < > > christopher.l.shannon@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for getting this started Bruce. > > > > > > The migration portion is going to be tricky and we need to discuss mo= re > > how > > > to handle it. Maybe we need to write a tool to help convert the old > 5.x > > > XML config to the Artemis config or update Artemis to be able to read= a > > 5.x > > > style config. Obviously not everything will translate directly so th= at > > > would need to be figured out. > > > > > > For the datastore we have a tool that will export KahaDB to XML that > can > > > then be imported by Artemis but this could probably be improved even > more > > > to make it more automated. > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Justin Bertram > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks, Bruce! > > > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Bruce Snyder > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have added the following statement to the first paragraph in th= e > > wiki > > > > > page: > > > > > > > > > > The overall objective for working toward feature parity betwe= en > > > > > ActiveMQ 5.x and Artemis is for Artemis to eventually become > ActiveMQ > > > > 6.x. > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Justin Bertram < > jbertram@redhat.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to clarify what, if anything, will happen = if > > > > Artemis > > > > > > achieves the described level of feature parity with ActiveMQ 5.= x? > > In > > > > > other > > > > > > words, what is the goal of Artemis' feature parity with 5.x? I > > > think a > > > > > > broader road-map like that would really help the community as > they > > > > could > > > > > > look at the Artemis road-map and see that they can help achieve > the > > > > goal > > > > > > (whatever that is) by helping to implement feature X or Y. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Bruce Snyder < > > bruce.snyder@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have created a page on the wiki for the Artemis Roadmap her= e: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ACTIVEMQ/ > > > > > > > ActiveMQ+Artemis+Roadmap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of this page is stated at the top: to identify the > > > > outstanding > > > > > > > issues that must be addressed by Artemis in order to achieve > some > > > > level > > > > > > of > > > > > > > feature parity with ActiveMQ 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I encourage everyone to contribute to this page and to discus= s > > this > > > > > > roadmap > > > > > > > on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > perl -e 'print > > > > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=3D6-E+G-N>61E > > "YC;VT*" > > > > > );' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > perl -e 'print > > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=3D6-E+G-N>61E "YC;VT*" > > > );' > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > perl -e 'print > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=3D6-E+G-N>61E > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > -- > Clebert Suconic > --=20 perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=3D6-E+G-N>61E Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder --089e0828b058644fd4055fcc778e--