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From Clebert Suconic <>
Subject Re: Thoughts on refactoring the ActiveMQ website
Date Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:50:18 GMT
What about this.. there's a lot of stuff that's doc...

What if we made docs for AMQ5 instead of converting to another
format.. it's the same work regardless.. and Markdown for docs it's

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Bruce Snyder <> wrote:
> I have poked through some of the exported HTML pages from Confluence and
> there is so much cruft in there. E.g., large amounts of content wrapped in
> tables -- blech! I've also experimented with the text2html Python script
> and it does not convert these HTML files to Markdown very well, even if I
> skip tables. If we were to resort to hacking the HTML by hand to convert to
> Markdown, this is a *tremendous* amount of work. I grabbed the HTML, got
> rid of the duplicates that I saw and I still have 1600+ files.
> Bruce
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Matt Pavlovich <> wrote:
>> If we can settle on a target format, I'd be up for dedicating time for a
>> hack-a-thon to just blaze through it. While painful, I believe we could get
>> it done quickly.
>> On 12/6/17 10:20 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>>> Several opinions have been expressed recently that the ActiveMQ website
>>> needs some attention and that Artemis should be made more prominent. I'd
>>> like to discuss some ideas to see what we could achieve on this topic.
>>> If we are going to make Artemis more prominent, the first concern I
>>> identified is that the ActiveMQ website and the Artemis website are
>>> authored differently. The ActiveMQ website is authored in the Confluence
>>> wiki and exported to HTML automagically whereas the Artemis website is
>>> authored in raw HTML. As a result, the two sites have a very different
>>> look
>>> and feel to them. This presents some challenges to using the content
>>> between the two.
>>> But this presents other questions -- do we want the two sites to look
>>> similar or different? When someone looks at Artemis content, do we want
>>> the
>>> user to immediately know that they are looking at ActiveMQ content vs.
>>> Artemis based content solely due to the look and feel of the site? Should
>>> there even be two different sites?
>>> I would prefer to have the site authored in a language that is easier to
>>> write than HTML (such as Markdown). I would also like the files comprising
>>> the site to live in a git repo. To give the site a modern look and feel
>>> means using CSS (e.g., SASS, etc.). All these things can be achieved using
>>> Jekyll, but first we would need to convert the raw HTML files to Mardown
>>> to
>>> put in git. I have experimented with some tools to convert HTML to
>>> Markdown
>>> and they are less than ideal. Does anyone have any experience with this?
>>> Sorry for the rambling. Anyone else interested to help tackle this thorny
>>> set of issues?
>>> Bruce
> --
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