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From Hadrian Zbarcea <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Artemis as TLP
Date Thu, 07 Dec 2017 03:42:29 GMT
What am I saying? There  you have the authority in the field :).

John, the projects are in fact separated, Artemis is actually the 
donated HornetQ project. It's not like 2 factions don't agree on the 
future of one project. It's more like some not buying into the idea of 
ActiveMQ being switched to HornetQ/Artemis with a version switch without 
feature parity and reasonable adoption. And this proposal not even being 
the first of its kind.

This way Artemis has the freedom to be as little or as much compatible 
with ActiveMQ. No misrepresentation explicit or implied.

I am completely neutral to the appropriate forum to have the discussion, 
but here one could get input from a larger audience.


On 12/06/2017 10:29 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> The board receives agenda items to create a new TLP.  I'm not sure that
> "graduation" is the right term, but more effectively "there is now a
> project, which will have resources transferred to it from the ActiveMQ
> project."
> Personally, while I'm usually the biggest one pushing for open and honest
> communication; I think you should discuss on your private@ list first. It
> will give you some time to think about the over arching issues (technical,
> procedural, interpersonal, etc) that are driving some of these and figure
> out if there's a middle ground that can be established.  Before moving
> forward with any of these approaches, it is best to figure out if the
> problems can be solved by the PMC without separating the project.
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:20 PM Christopher Shannon <
>> wrote:
>> Would Artemis need to go through the incubator process to make this happen
>> or could it immediately become its own TLP if that was agreed upon?
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <>
>> wrote:
>>> Since Artemis has a kernel of developers had a few releases, and
>> hard-core
>>> Artemis believers want to be in control of their own destiny and they
>>> believe the project can be sustained on its own merits and have it's own
>>> awesome site, I propose that Artemis form its own PMC and start a vote to
>>> graduate as TLP.
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Hadrian

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