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From Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Time for another ASF board report
Date Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:53:26 GMT
Thank you for the responses. This helps me understand how this was
implemented and I am pleased to see that it has been a transparent,
community involved process.

Nice work, guys!

Bruce

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Michael André Pearce <
michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> When I raised initially to add hawtio in the summer I was made very aware
> by key committers at the time about the previous foray with hawtio, as you
> note from the mail lists some of the reason for the issues with it
> previously.
>
> This is why we clearly called out the requirements that must be met
> ensured the conversation occurred in the community on the mail lists and
> also in IRC and also why it took some time, as we had to make sure that we
> addressed all these concerns with everyone on the dev lists and via PR’s.
> People such as Dan was instrumental in making sure we kept true to this.
> @thanks to Dan on this.
>
> On the note of where code is:
>
> We use Hawtio as a third party lib/framework. This is akin to depending on
> Jolokia, Netty etc.
>
> All the war customization, branding and also the plugin providing Artemis
> management features fully reside in the ActiveMQ Artemis project.
>
> See artemis-hawtio module and it’s sub modules.
>
> I hope this helps clarify?
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 19 Oct 2017, at 16:09, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Thank you for providing this info. The URL to the mailing list discussion
> > is especially helpful.
> >
> > The reason I am asking about this topic is due to the past issues that
> > arose around the use of the Hawt.io management console without seeking
> > consensus before making the changes (I cannot recall all the details off
> > the top of my head). I see that the Hawt.io console is being used for
> > Artemis, but it appears to have been achieved in a more transparent
> manner
> > via mailing list discussions and pull requests. Does all of the source
> code
> > for the management console exist in the git repo as part of the ActiveMQ
> > Artemis project?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bruce,
> >>
> >>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There was a comment regarding Artemis added to the board report that
> >>> mentioned the following:
> >>>
> >>> 'An embedded web management console was added'
> >>>
> >>> What embedded web management console is this? Was it built from the
> >> ground
> >>> up or was it adopted from something else?
> >>
> >> It uses hawt.io as a framework, but there were extensive requirements
> set
> >> forth that we able to be met with the newer setup.   See the summary at:
> >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ea23d51f254690a905caf064cbd116
> >> 10773dc3dc9015c10319b7d826@%3Cdev.activemq.apache.org%3E
> >>
> >> And the links in that email.   Basically, all the hawt.io branding is
> >> removed and replaced with ActiveMQ branding, all of stuff not related to
> >> ActiveMQ is removed/hidden, and all of the ActiveMQ/Artemis
> functionally is
> >> provided by plugins created and maintained here at Apache.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thank you for taking the time, Robbie.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Robbie Gemmell <
> >> robbie.gemmell@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've added some initial notes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robbie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5 October 2017 at 15:54, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>> It is time to create a report for the ASF board for October.
Please
> >>>>> take 5
> >>>>>> minutes and contribute to the report available at the following
URL:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?
> >>>>> pageId=74681966
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please contribute any project activity from any of the ActiveMQ
> >>>>> subprojects.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This report will be submitted on 10 Oct.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> perl -e 'print
> >>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
> "YC;VT*"
> >>>>> );'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> >>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
> >>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> >>>>
> >>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> >>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> perl -e 'print
> >>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
> >>>
> >>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> >>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Kulp
> >> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> >
> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>



-- 
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'

ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder

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