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From Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Removing the Web Console
Date Tue, 04 Jul 2017 22:23:50 GMT
+1 if Martyn already cleared the possibility of taking the plug in.


I'm nIt sure what to do with the history.  I would start fresh.

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:31 PM Michael André Pearce <
michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is the proposal, for lack of a better one and lack of any console for
> artemis currently, and as  end users are crying out for this including
> myself (I work for a company called IG Group).
>
> It is to provide skinned version of hawtio (ASL) using the fact you can
> provide a branding plugin, I have created this, and is what the screenshots
> show and available in my personal branch currently.
>
> Then to provide/expose neatly the artemis management features, there
> already exists in the wild an artemis plugin (currently in a git project
> called rh-messaging) to provide a rich feature set. As per my call out it
> seem the guys are willing to contribute this into artemis project.
>
> This is quite clean as if anyone wishes not to use or remove you can
> simply comment out in the bootstrap.xml its just some wars, like wise we
> just need to worry about maintaining going forwards just the plugins not a
> whole FE framework.
>
> Also if in the future a better viable option is chaired, then this can be
> replaced, but for now at least this provides an out the box solution which
> as already stated myself and other users are crying out for.
>
>
> As per the minimum things we needed to address which Dan kindly bulleted
> for us, to make this acceptable, i believe I have met all the minimum bar
> requirements now.
>
> =============
>
> I discussed previously, what would NEED to be done for this to be
> “acceptable”:
>
> 1) All branding/links/etc… in the console need to be re-skinned or
> whatever to be “ActiveMQ”.  All mentions of hawtio and links off to other
> sites other than a possible small “powered by” type thing would need to be
> removed.
>
> 2) All “plugins” and functionality that don’t pertain to things related to
> ActiveMQ would need to be removed.
>
> 3) The “plugin" that presents ActiveMQ related stuff to the user MUST live
> here at Apache and part of the ActiveMQ community.   We cannot use the one
> they provide (unless you can convince them to donate it to Apache).
>
> =============
>
> 1 - Done - See screenshots. (one note as per community feedback is for me
> to add a poweredBy logo , i can easily do this)
> 2 - Done - See screenshots
> 3 - Done - As per mail thread it seems they’re willing to donate this.
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
>
>
> > On 4 Jul 2017, at 18:57, artnaseef <art@amlinv.com> wrote:
> >
> > Please catch me up here - are we saying that the Artemis built-in web
> > console will be running HawtIO???
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 7:15 AM, rajdavies [via ActiveMQ] <
> > ml+s2283324n4728199h17@n4.nabble.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On the “about” page - it would be polite to reference the hawtio
> comunity
> >> - i.e. “Artemis Management console is powered by hawtio: hawt.io <
> >> http://hawt.io/>” etc - as there is no powered by logo.
> >>
> >>> On 3 Jul 2017, at 23:52, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=0>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ok,
> >>>
> >>> So i think we can do this. From a local build.
> >>>
> >>> Please see screenshots.
> >>>
> >>> https://gist.github.com/michaelandrepearce/
> >> 98b4be98d20f407c2d745a41df9cef03 <https://gist.github.com/
> >> michaelandrepearce/98b4be98d20f407c2d745a41df9cef03>
> >>>
> >>> For 1) I think we have managed to completely skin it, with all hawtio
> >> references removed, even the favicon.
> >>> For 2) Only the artemis plugin and base jvm plugins, no extras for any
> >> other products.
> >>> For 3) Im hoping we can come to agreement on this gets contributed in
> >> from the rh-messaging project @clebert @martyn @andy?, if not we can
> >> probably code up a simpler version of it for now without bells and
> >> whistles, and add in the future features later.
> >>>
> >>> So if we sort point three, i think we can make this “acceptable”
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 19:17, Daniel Kulp <[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=1>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=2> <mailto:[hidden
> >> email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=3>>>
wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe we could make a simple activemq branding jar/war with
the
> >> selected new logo ;) once decided without too much trouble.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd be happy to step up to try do this if no objectors.
> >>>>
> >>>> I discussed previously, what would NEED to be done for this to be
> >> “acceptable”:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) All branding/links/etc… in the console need to be re-skinned or
> >> whatever to be “ActiveMQ”.  All mentions of hawtio and links off to
> other
> >> sites other than a possible small “powered by” type thing would need to
> be
> >> removed.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) All “plugins” and functionality that don’t pertain to things
> related
> >> to ActiveMQ would need to be removed.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) The “plugin" that presents ActiveMQ related stuff to the user MUST
> >> live here at Apache and part of the ActiveMQ community.   We cannot use
> the
> >> one they provide (unless you can convince them to donate it to Apache).
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless all three happen, it’s a no-go.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 16:51, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=4>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Speaking the plain truth... The issue is that the hawtio console
> that
> >>>>>> was used years ago.. looked like a commercial product outside
of
> >>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think that if we clear that now.. if it looks an apache look
&
> >>>>>> feel.. people wouldn't have an issue with it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That would require some cleanup.. move to a newer hawtio plugin
> >> maybe?
> >>>>>> that's when we thought about trying new routes if we would need
to
> do
> >>>>>> a lot of work anyways.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Michael André Pearce
> >>>>>> <[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=5>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I don't think this is a blocker, for example artemis uses
jboss
> >> logging, this doesn't have a notice file
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we just have to preserve them if present and for
asf
> >> projects themselves eg artemis itself it's policy to provide one for the
> >> asf work.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 01:09, W B D <[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=6>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've been using hawtio alongside the classic web console
in
> >> ActiveMQ 5.x
> >>>>>>>> and have been quite happy with it. I find it easier
to use for
> many
> >> common
> >>>>>>>> operations as well as for general monitoring, and it
is definitely
> >> a gap in
> >>>>>>>> the current Artemis distribution, so I would certainly
welcome
> >> built-in
> >>>>>>>> hawtio support as a good addition.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Although the source code already contains the standard
license
> >> assignment
> >>>>>>>> to ASF, it does not include a NOTICE file. We could
ask Redhat for
> >> one, or
> >>>>>>>> construct one crediting them with the original work,
or add a
> >> stanza to the
> >>>>>>>> top-level NOTICE file if that is more appropriate. IMO,
the
> package
> >> and
> >>>>>>>> class name org.jboss.plugin.PluginContextListener could
probably
> >> be changed
> >>>>>>>> in our copy, both to establish custody and to give a
clearer name.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:27 AM, MichaelAndrePearce
<
> >>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=7>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's been some time since this discussion thread
without
> seemingly
> >> any
> >>>>>>>>> movement.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Artemis Project is really suffering from having
any kind of
> >> management
> >>>>>>>>> console. With continued questions and calls from
users especially
> >> as it's
> >>>>>>>>> picking up traction and deployment.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> As such could I propose, that as lack of movement
on any other
> >> solution and
> >>>>>>>>> Hawtio is pretty much in a usable state, with a
plugin also out
> >> there in
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> wild. (It's ASL)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That for the interim on artemis project we build
and release with
> >> Hawtio
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> an artemis plugin (if RH would donate their plugin
to artemis
> >> project?)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any objectors?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Clebert Suconic
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Daniel Kulp
> >>>> [hidden email] <http://
> /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=8>
> >> <mailto:[hidden email]
> >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=9>> -
> >> http://dankulp.com/blog <http://dankulp.com/blog>
> >>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com <http
> >> ://coders.talend.com/>
> >>
> >>
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