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From Michael André Pearce <michael.andre.pea...@me.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSS] Web Management Console for Artemis.
Date Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:38:29 GMT
As Dan says there is a reference to being powered by in the about page. 

I was under the impression it shouldn't be up front an centre, but in the about area would
suffice.



Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Jul 2017, at 13:11, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No third party / propriety other products should be mentioned apart from a
>> powered by.
>>  * I don't see any powered by on the main screens.  We can open a JIRA to
>> track it once this is merged.
> 
> It shouldn’t be on the main screen…. There is information on the “About” page
(at least last time I looked at it) which is enough.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> This should be able to expand over time
>> * Met. It's extendable.
>> 
>> License/Notice files and any legal requirements are updated/met
>> * I've been through each source, license and notice file.  Both in this
>> project and the original project this is imported from.  The original
>> project was not properly licensed, which caused some concern.  However,
>> I've sent a PR which was merged.  I think we're all good here.
>> 
>> In summary, I think it's a great first start and something users can use
>> pretty much straight away.
>> 
>> +1 from me.  Great work Michael.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Justin Bertram <jbertram@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just reviewed the new console via the PR.  I really like it.  Nice work!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Clebert Suconic <
>>> clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's fair guys.. I was just tempted to do it.. but won't to it.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Michael André Pearce
>>>> <michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> I would agree, we should stick to the plan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Merging straight after release and releasing again won't delay in
>>>> reality the time people can use it. Apart from a few days at most.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But will address/de risks any concerns.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2017, at 17:23, Timothy Bish <tabish121@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 07/13/2017 12:10 PM, Clebert Suconic wrote:
>>>>>>> I am tempted to merge it now actually....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone opposed to this? it would be cool to have a console on
this
>>>>>>> next release.. if it's all good.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please stick to the original plan.  I guessing there's other folks
>>> like
>>>> myself who haven't had time to even look at this new console yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Michael André Pearce
>>>>>>> <michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to start a fresh discussion to keep things cleaner,
and
>>>> to provide more of a notification/update. (also to better name the
>>> subject)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The requirement for such a tool comes from many end users
(including
>>>> myself) which keep requesting such a feature of a web management console
>>> (a
>>>> small selection of a much larger list i can supply many more), and so
>>>> becomes more and more pressing to resolve.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/How-to-monitor-
>>>> artemis-td4727071.html <http://activemq.2283324.n4.
>>>> nabble.com/How-to-monitor-artemis-td4727071.html>
>>>>>>>> https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/
>>>> 39052/administration-console-for-artemis-jms-broker <
>>> https://softwarerecs.
>>>> stackexchange.com/questions/39052/administration-console-
>>>> for-artemis-jms-broker>
>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37162532/how-to-
>>>> monitor-apache-artemis <https://stackoverflow.com/
>>>> questions/37162532/how-to-monitor-apache-artemis>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Based off the discussion here:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-
>>>> the-Web-Console-td4717136i40.html#a4728199 <http://activemq.2283324.n4.
>>>> nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-td4717136i40.html#a4728199>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We have some key requirements as noted were (not exhaustive
but a
>>>> small summary of noted in the above thread):
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Must be ActiveMQ Branded
>>>>>>>> No third party / propriety other products should be mentioned
apart
>>>> from a powered by.
>>>>>>>> Help and about pages should be ActiveMQ Artemis focussed
>>>>>>>> Provide functionality to manage the broker
>>>>>>>> This should be able to expand over time
>>>>>>>> License/Notice files and any legal requirements are updated/met
>>>>>>>> The war size should be kept to a minimum
>>>>>>>> Login/Security should be integrated to the broker roles/users
>>>>>>>> Plugins/customisation specific to AcitveMQ Artemis to reside
in
>>>> ActiveMQ Artemis project.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also we had some good early feedback in the community on
the missing
>>>> bits in our early PR, of bits that needed/must be addressed. (thanks to
>>>> Dan, Clebert, Martyn).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We believe we have a viable “agreeable" solution to provide
a web
>>>> console admin for Apache ActiveMQ Artemis.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As such we don’t see any reason to hold off and would like
to bring
>>>> your attention (again) to the PR please make any standard review comments
>>>> there.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1385 <
>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1385>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also there has been a small discussion on how to release
this, so
>>>> that we can start to get end user feedback, as users tend to want a built
>>>> usable distribution, like wise there is concern of bundling this into the
>>>> next release.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We propose:
>>>>>>>> We will release the upcoming next version of Apache ActiveMQ
>>> Artemis,
>>>> WITHOUT the new web console. This is due to occur in the coming week.
>>>>>>>> We will then subsequently look to merge and release another
version
>>>> of Apache ActiveMQ Artemis WITH the console, so it is in a clean release
>>>> with only the addition of the web console. This should occur almost
>>>> immediately after.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I should thank Clebert and Martyn in offering to run the
extra
>>>> release this would require, but de-risk some community concerns.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This solution is based off a hawtio framework, i would like
to
>>>> iterate i am not a RedHat employee, nor anything to do with Hawtio
>>> project.
>>>> I work for a company that uses the project like other end users, and
>>> simply
>>>> see it as a framework to enable us in activemq to deliver a usable web
>>>> management console for artemis with as little cost, effort and
>>> maintenance
>>>> as possible, to provide an immediate need in the user community.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tim Bish
>>>>>> twitter: @tabish121
>>>>>> blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Clebert Suconic
>>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
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