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From Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSS] Web Management Console for Artemis.
Date Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:11:52 GMT


> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Martyn Taylor <mtaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> No third party / propriety other products should be mentioned apart from a
> powered by.
>   * I don't see any powered by on the main screens.  We can open a JIRA to
> track it once this is merged.

It shouldn’t be on the main screen…. There is information on the “About” page (at
least last time I looked at it) which is enough.


Dan



> 
> This should be able to expand over time
>  * Met. It's extendable.
> 
> License/Notice files and any legal requirements are updated/met
>  * I've been through each source, license and notice file.  Both in this
> project and the original project this is imported from.  The original
> project was not properly licensed, which caused some concern.  However,
> I've sent a PR which was merged.  I think we're all good here.
> 
> In summary, I think it's a great first start and something users can use
> pretty much straight away.
> 
> +1 from me.  Great work Michael.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Justin Bertram <jbertram@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> I just reviewed the new console via the PR.  I really like it.  Nice work!
>> 
>> 
>> Justin
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Clebert Suconic <
>> clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's fair guys.. I was just tempted to do it.. but won't to it.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Michael André Pearce
>>> <michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>>>> I would agree, we should stick to the plan.
>>>> 
>>>> Merging straight after release and releasing again won't delay in
>>> reality the time people can use it. Apart from a few days at most.
>>>> 
>>>> But will address/de risks any concerns.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Jul 2017, at 17:23, Timothy Bish <tabish121@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 07/13/2017 12:10 PM, Clebert Suconic wrote:
>>>>>> I am tempted to merge it now actually....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone opposed to this? it would be cool to have a console on this
>>>>>> next release.. if it's all good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please stick to the original plan.  I guessing there's other folks
>> like
>>> myself who haven't had time to even look at this new console yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Michael André Pearce
>>>>>> <michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to start a fresh discussion to keep things cleaner,
and
>>> to provide more of a notification/update. (also to better name the
>> subject)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The requirement for such a tool comes from many end users (including
>>> myself) which keep requesting such a feature of a web management console
>> (a
>>> small selection of a much larger list i can supply many more), and so
>>> becomes more and more pressing to resolve.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/How-to-monitor-
>>> artemis-td4727071.html <http://activemq.2283324.n4.
>>> nabble.com/How-to-monitor-artemis-td4727071.html>
>>>>>>> https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/
>>> 39052/administration-console-for-artemis-jms-broker <
>> https://softwarerecs.
>>> stackexchange.com/questions/39052/administration-console-
>>> for-artemis-jms-broker>
>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37162532/how-to-
>>> monitor-apache-artemis <https://stackoverflow.com/
>>> questions/37162532/how-to-monitor-apache-artemis>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Based off the discussion here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-
>>> the-Web-Console-td4717136i40.html#a4728199 <http://activemq.2283324.n4.
>>> nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-td4717136i40.html#a4728199>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have some key requirements as noted were (not exhaustive but
a
>>> small summary of noted in the above thread):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Must be ActiveMQ Branded
>>>>>>> No third party / propriety other products should be mentioned
apart
>>> from a powered by.
>>>>>>> Help and about pages should be ActiveMQ Artemis focussed
>>>>>>> Provide functionality to manage the broker
>>>>>>> This should be able to expand over time
>>>>>>> License/Notice files and any legal requirements are updated/met
>>>>>>> The war size should be kept to a minimum
>>>>>>> Login/Security should be integrated to the broker roles/users
>>>>>>> Plugins/customisation specific to AcitveMQ Artemis to reside
in
>>> ActiveMQ Artemis project.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also we had some good early feedback in the community on the
missing
>>> bits in our early PR, of bits that needed/must be addressed. (thanks to
>>> Dan, Clebert, Martyn).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We believe we have a viable “agreeable" solution to provide
a web
>>> console admin for Apache ActiveMQ Artemis.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As such we don’t see any reason to hold off and would like
to bring
>>> your attention (again) to the PR please make any standard review comments
>>> there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1385 <
>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1385>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also there has been a small discussion on how to release this,
so
>>> that we can start to get end user feedback, as users tend to want a built
>>> usable distribution, like wise there is concern of bundling this into the
>>> next release.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We propose:
>>>>>>> We will release the upcoming next version of Apache ActiveMQ
>> Artemis,
>>> WITHOUT the new web console. This is due to occur in the coming week.
>>>>>>> We will then subsequently look to merge and release another version
>>> of Apache ActiveMQ Artemis WITH the console, so it is in a clean release
>>> with only the addition of the web console. This should occur almost
>>> immediately after.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I should thank Clebert and Martyn in offering to run the extra
>>> release this would require, but de-risk some community concerns.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This solution is based off a hawtio framework, i would like to
>>> iterate i am not a RedHat employee, nor anything to do with Hawtio
>> project.
>>> I work for a company that uses the project like other end users, and
>> simply
>>> see it as a framework to enable us in activemq to deliver a usable web
>>> management console for artemis with as little cost, effort and
>> maintenance
>>> as possible, to provide an immediate need in the user community.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tim Bish
>>>>> twitter: @tabish121
>>>>> blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Clebert Suconic
>>> 
>> 

-- 
Daniel Kulp
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