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From: Christian Schneider <chris@die-schneider.net>
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:37:38 +0100
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That sounds good. In the worst case we learned something in the best 
case we got the start of a good console.

Christian

On 02.03.2017 03:16, Clebert Suconic wrote:
> What about this .....
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> I want to learn something knew :) and I want t a break after what I'm doing
> now.
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> Let's try making a prototype around next month.  (April)
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> If it gets too difficult we go back to the hawt io road.
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> ????
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> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:56 PM Clebert Suconic <clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> I liked Martyn's proposal for being a cool thing :)
>>
>>
>> Just looked at this thing he mentioned (bootstrap).. man.. it's really
>> cool...
>> http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/
>>
>>
>> I'm not writing software just to be cool... but a great console would
>> definitely improve things...
>>
>>
>> One thing with a great UI though... our website still sucks :)
>>
>>
>>> - It provides a framework for plugins. So you can have one console that
>>> gives you access to ActiveMQ but also to other modules in your system
>>> - It uses jolokia to access the existing JMX layer over REST. So we do
>> not
>>> need to create an additional REST layer for the console on the AMQ and
>>> Artemis side
>>> - Uses a html/javascript client (Angular). So the client side is easy to
>>> install on any server
>>>
>>> So if we do not write a Hawtio plugin then we should still consider to
>> use
>>> jolokia to avoid overhead on the server side.
>>> I also think a framework to hook other plugins in would be great but for
>>> just the activemq and artemis consoles it is not absolutely necessary.
>> +1... although I strongly encourage to keep the bits isolated. Not
>> only for easy switch between AMQ5 and Artemis, but eventually we could
>> include other technologies available on the console. (examples: AMQP
>> Management, JMX, some consoles standard that I don't remember now, or
>> any other thing yet to be invented)..   All I'm asking is for standard
>> OO encapsulation.
>>
>>> So ideally I would like to have something like Hatwio at apache as a
>> generic
>>> base for a console where all apache projects can hook in via plugins.
>>> Unfortunately this is a lot of effort and I am not sure if we find enough
>>> manpower to do it.  It would also be a project on its own and should not
>> be
>>> done at activemq.
>>
>>
>> ..... if I had the time.....     :/
>>


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