Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2424D200BD5 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:06:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 22A0B160B1F; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 69F84160B0A for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:06:31 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 46554 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2016 16:06:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 46541 invoked by uid 99); 8 Dec 2016 16:06:29 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 16:06:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 5275518BB89 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:06:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.129 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.129 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mm1AoPvAGoTM for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f41.google.com (mail-wm0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id D263F5F3F0 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a197so223564319wmd.0 for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 08:06:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=SXls/Nzxo8B6/P74gLSYUXpZGRufw1WCsjFZuNk5vuY=; b=DXPKfsoeIAhd9KTEkKmf7n072ro3uExPERyTwne6F2w7MMuzraCPIRz4cjznqlHnJY axSm2lAJZWHVR6IDuuHJITKh5R/WlAfEN001HiqvRrTnxkOu5bBATdk6bo12AK9Q2G9h thwt4oWRS2pqEBcrcJe5pt6Djn2prjiNyV0F0MT0269my2Dkvp824sHI6h0wH0ZZEYWn YNbx2UlqvNn+9CFItsjftnemAIgkapcCsL003T7UUar3z88PbFLCsX3TqSnrVWWPGwCH MzR+FqIW9pI40XwXTOeQ/FVUWw0k4a+5n4lSvSasxFKRwlC3RHmNoPcLQA48zHcVLOFG HFag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=SXls/Nzxo8B6/P74gLSYUXpZGRufw1WCsjFZuNk5vuY=; b=YH98BfDRExgpjqXb6CgacdTATSIaChD36YQ5BKvVN8jXPrA2RllLjnsSvJgQ4lvfUz ZNeCx6ebpkbjQ9whPc4Ucf1ERpsYJMx7HsR5PKs2n/SmH3BjRz0CfbqebjMKGBpJhXRF AWx0cPtJMOz+iGva1oeNtt8YolyAoA7XFHWMxD3vjszA0Ps0uhWjNC1LuyEHTt3Ovzws wTAY6W9wq7oyffKJolopeDnHbpXG/EEqqD23o6p4MmYTFjCsgUdMrRTRaU+B4uB5Z7yw CfpxD1kz8Jpbj5lZEejZs5wF4uW6+BR8tEPz5w8GyG0K1IWSAO78ND7LG5cRScOVbFFY 2h+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00SPXK3Ir1dRfmomzUo7kr+vcgtfMm50URyNlGc+AgXX+Nb22xmwe0LU9Mt7bsGGsxXMRR9fq3iQcy4NQ== X-Received: by 10.28.137.193 with SMTP id l184mr2754688wmd.88.1481213127290; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 08:05:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.46.2 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Andy Taylor Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:05:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features To: dev@activemq.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1144176449f57a054327ce08 archived-at: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 16:06:32 -0000 --001a1144176449f57a054327ce08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think Christian's issue is not with feature parity being a marketing goal but the fact that you aligned a major bump with a feature set rather than API changes etc. we have had this conversation a couple of times and altho its a good idea the discussion just goes of on all tangents since everyone wants different new functionality. I would suggest raising a Jira per enhancement and discuss each individually. On 8 December 2016 at 15:50, Matt Pavlovich wrote: > Christian- > > Are there any features or API breaking changes you'd like to see? My #1 > goal is to kick off a conversation. > > I don't think setting goals like "feature parity w/ ActiveMQ 5.x" is a > marketing goal. I think it is a user-centric goal. Users use features. For > Artemis to be a suitable upgrade for ActiveMQ 5.x, a set of features need > to be present. My intention with this thread is to discuss and prioritize > those features. > > -Matt > > > > On 12/8/16 1:52 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > >> As artemis is an open source project I would not use a marketing like >> reason for a new major version (like a certain feature set). >> Instead I would use a major version to remove deprecated interfaces. So >> basically to remove stuff in a way that might be incompatible to older >> clients. >> For pure feature additions a minor version should be technically good >> enough. >> >> Christian >> >> 2016-12-07 22:29 GMT+01:00 Matt Pavlovich : >> >> *** Re-sending w/ [DISCUSS] subject tag >>> >>> Kicking off a discussion on what folks would like to see in 2.0.0 release >>> for Artemis. My thought is that we should target ActiveMQ 5.x feature >>> parity in an effort to solidify Artemis in the product sense. I will >>> detail >>> out specifics from my previous note on 5.x-Artemis feature gaps. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >> > --001a1144176449f57a054327ce08--