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From Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Removing the Web Console
Date Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:36:22 GMT
I don't think the attachments com through dev list.
I don't see an attachment at least.

Probably better to provide a link somewhere ?



On Friday, October 7, 2016, Fabio Gomes dos Santos <supergrilo@gmail.com>
wrote:

> TL;DR
>
> but i believe you will appreciate this screenshots
> i have used zabbix to collect metrics and generate alerts, and used
> grafana like a passive artemis dashboard.
>
> Basically grafana use zabbix like a data store via api.
>
> i have plan to write a article about how do that soon
>
>
>
> ​
>
>
>
> 2016-10-07 19:54 GMT-03:00 Clebert Suconic <clebert.suconic@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clebert.suconic@gmail.com');>>:
>
>> a consolidated repo for AMQ and Artemis might be useful for other
>> stuff as well. not just the web console.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:49 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','johndament@apache.org');>> wrote:
>> > I think I just saw two great ideas:
>> >
>> > - A consolidated web console that is usable by both ActiveMQ and
>> Artemis.
>> > - It should be an independent repository/utility.
>> >
>> > I think all of the discussions are happening on a ML, but realistically
>> if
>> > we're ready to start writing down some code, we need some of those
>> > utilities in place.  Since PRs are mirrored to the MLs that would work,
>> but
>> > I would hate to see it baked into one of the existing repos to make that
>> > happen.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:41 PM Jim Gomes <jgomes@apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jgomes@apache.org');>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I was under the impression that all Apache development discussions
>> occur on
>> >> the email list. This is for legal and policy reasons. Please correct
>> me if
>> >> I'm wrong.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016, 9:43 AM Clebert Suconic <
>> clebert.suconic@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clebert.suconic@gmail.com');>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I think this is pretty straightforward:
>> >> >
>> >> > i - it should relay on JMX or jolokia.. A common thing between both
>> >> > Artemis and ActiveMQ
>> >> >
>> >> > ii - it should manage at least a single broker.. with some metrics...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > iii - anything beyond that will just be a collaboration over the
>> code.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The best way to discuss this IMO would be through a Pull Request..
>> >> > someone send an initial draft.. we can have some **technical**
>> >> > discussion over of PR, and commit it as version 1... then
>> >> > collaboratively this could be increased just as with anything else.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I think we are clear from the previous discussions... and that's a
>> >> > request I am making here, probably the third time... lets
>> CTRL-Alt-Del
>> >> > and start fresh... The issues we had are clear... and I see everybody
>> >> > with a single goal here.. to have an integrated console that looks
>> >> > like an Apache project, pretty and neat.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Once someone put a first version, we can only improve it from there.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hzbarcea@gmail.com');>>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > I would suggest discussing the goals for such a console first.
Is
>> it
>> >> > > intended to monitory just one broker instance or a whole network
of
>> >> > brokers?
>> >> > > Should it manage just the brokers or other services? Should it
>> rely on
>> >> > JMX
>> >> > > or something else?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Then one can think about reusing and/or improving something that's
>> >> > available
>> >> > > or some other solution.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The way this discuss goes, sounds to me like trying to push again
>> for
>> >> > > something that was rejected in the past and I suspect will not
go
>> >> > anywhere.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > My $0.02,
>> >> > > Hadrian
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 10/07/2016 06:41 AM, Martyn Taylor wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> +1 on improving/adding a console.  Providing a console out
of the
>> box
>> >> > is a
>> >> > >> massive win for user experience imo and something that I feel
>> Artemis
>> >> > >> would
>> >> > >> greatly benefit from.  Whether it's HawtIO or something else
we
>> should
>> >> > >> make
>> >> > >> every effort to standardise across both 5.x and Artemis.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Clebert Suconic
>> >> > >> <clebert.suconic@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clebert.suconic@gmail.com');>>
>> >> > >> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:57 AM, John D. Ament <
>> >> johndament@apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','johndament@apache.org');>>
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> @Hiram
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> The website branding says otherwise (take a look at
the top
>> right
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> corner).
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> That symbol on the top is just a link to the following:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> "Like hawtio? It’s part of a community of Red Hat projects.
Learn
>> >> more
>> >> > >>> about Red Hat and our open source communities:"
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>  No other implications from what I see.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Clebert Suconic
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clebert Suconic
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Fábio Santos
> supergrilo@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','supergrilo@gmail.com');>
> <http://br.linkedin.com/pub/f%C3%A1bio-santos/1b/20/422>
>


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Clebert Suconic

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