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From James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
Subject Re: Special Board Report
Date Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:15:33 GMT
For what it's worth, I agree with Hadrian that HornetQ should go to the
incubator.  The fact that I gave up on pushing the issue doesn't mean I
don't think that's the right course of action.  It just didn't seem like it
was going to happen.


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:46 PM Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com> wrote:

> Uhm, what were we doing for the past 2 weeks? On two lists, multiple
> threads?
>
> I assume you are aware of my recommendation to have hornetq grow
> independently in the incubator. That proposal was rejected, but no
> reason given besides that the RH engineers would have to do the work
> twice. My request was to include that in the report (or whatever other
> reason might exist). The way it looks is that Fuse/RH/(the Damarillo
> group), anyway you want to describe that faction is dead set on
> replacing the existing ActiveMQ with HornetQ (or whatever code name) in
> version 6 or 10. By keeping HornetQ under the ActiveMQ PMC influence its
> future will be heavily influenced by the already biased PMC and at the
> same time hide the lack of diversity in HornetQ. In the incubator,
> HornetQ will have the opportunity and freedom to grow in any direction
> and build a diverse community.
>
> Since there is all this concern about the viral nature of the plan, why
> not allow HornetQ to take its course, build more diversity in the
> ActiveMQ community (actually both) and influence it based on technical
> merits instead of abundance of votes?
>
> Does that clarify my request?
> Hadrian
>
>
> On 04/20/2015 05:51 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
> > Agreed, we need to get this report published/submitted, so time is off
> the
> > essence here.
> >
> > Hadrian, you have raised some points that you would like to have included
> > in the report, but nobody can read your mind. Please add your points to
> the
> > report so that others can see them and discuss them ASAP.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So we are running into a time crunch here.  I'm hoping all the PMC
> >> members will pitch in and apply any edits to the report they deem
> >> necessary.  Many thanks to those who have helped out.  Seems like some
> >> folks are still now happy with it, so that's why have held off in
> >> sending it so that they get a chance to add their input.  But your
> >> right, I do have to send this in before the 22nd so really today is
> >> the last day I can hold off so that I can send it on the 21st so that
> >> the board has at least 24 hours to review before their meeting.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> One more thing. It's the responsibility of the PMC chair to provide a
> >> timely
> >>> report to the board. It's entirely his choice how he wants to go about
> >> it,
> >>> what he decides to include and what to leave out. The report should be
> >>> published in a timely manner though, so that comments (usually from the
> >>> board) could be addressed before the meeting.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Hadrian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 04/20/2015 05:23 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok so, then it sounds like your ok with the report the way it is right
> >>>> now.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have nothing to write. There were some claims made that were not
> >>>>> substantiate. My request was for the party that made the claims
to
> >>>>> provide
> >>>>> an explanation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I cannot explain somebody else's point of view. I can explain my
> views
> >> if
> >>>>> anybody requires it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Hadrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 04/20/2015 02:39 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hadrian, please write up what you want to include in the board
> report
> >>>>>> that way the rest of the PMC can review.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <
> hzbarcea@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> First, the report is late. Second, I don't think it addresses
the
> >>>>>>> problems.
> >>>>>>> Third, I made a request to please include in the report
an
> >> explanation
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> why hornetq moving to the incubator is a non-starter for
Fuse
> crowd.
> >> It
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> very frustrating that requests get ignored.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hadrian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 04/20/2015 02:16 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Are they any other updates folks want to make to this
report?
> >> Please
> >>>>>>>> apply your updates soon.  The board meets on the 22nd
and I'd like
> >> to
> >>>>>>>> submit the report on the 21st at the latest.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Hiram Chirino
> >>>>>>>> <hiram@hiramchirino.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys.  The board requested a report this month
and had some
> >>>>>>>>> specific questions around the hornetq code donation.
 I've put
> up a
> >>>>>>>>> first cut a report on the Wiki at:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=55155578
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hopefully we can finish off the code donation naming
vote soon a
> >>>>>>>>> report that too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Hiram Chirino
> >>>>>>>>> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
> >>>>>>>>> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hiram Chirino
> >> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
> >> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
> >> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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