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From Jim Gomes <e.se...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Fix Sorting of Board Reports
Date Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:13:34 GMT
Thanks for the explanation. That helps.

So, I guess we could discuss the merits of keeping the Board Reports on our
wiki, as it does seem somewhat redundant. As long as they exist on the
wiki, it would be helpful to have a better indexing system.

Perhaps Hiram can offer background as to the purpose and intent of the
Board Reports being published on the wiki?

Best,
Jim



On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:

>
> > On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jim Gomes <jgomes@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the link, Dan. I didn't know those were there. I think the
> main
> > difference here is that link is to the Board Minutes, whereas the
> ActiveMQ
> > wiki has the Board Report. They seem to be identical, but will they
> always
> > be?
>
> Possibly not, but it would NORMALLY be because the board has decided
> something should be private (like names of people being voted on or
> something) in which case it should likely not have been in our public
> version as well.   Doesn't happen too often.  Also, they would remove any
> "wiki formatting" type things that wouldn't look right in the text form
> they use.
>
>
> > And even if they are identical, do we still need to have the redundancy
> > for trace-ability? For instance, if the Board, for whatever reason,
> claims
> > they didn't receive the report, we have documentation on the wiki showing
> > the Report was produced.
>
> I don't really think the board would care if one was produced or not.
>  It's the chair's job to make sure the board gets the report.  If they
> don't get it, they ask the chair to report again next month.   If the chair
> consistently has issues, they'd likely replace the chair.    Another thing
> to keep in mind:  it's the Chairs job to create the report that reflects
> the state of the community.  The chair MAY include the wider community in
> creating that report, but that's not a requirement.   Thus, saying "the
> community produced one, the chair didn't submit it" really wouldn't matter
> at all.
>
> Dan
>
>
> >
> > That's me just trying to understand the reason for the Board Report
> page's
> > existence.
> >
> > -Jim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> No "objection", but why don't we just delete the page and point at the
> >> official records:
> >>
> >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ActiveMQ.html
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jim Gomes <jgomes@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I recently went out to look at previous Board Reports (
> >>> http://activemq.apache.org/apache-activemq-board-reports.html) and
> found
> >>> the current sorting method difficult to deal with. Unless we are
> required
> >>> to use the page naming format, I would like to change it to the
> following
> >>> format:
> >>>
> >>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.01 January
> >>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.04 April
> >>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.07 July
> >>> .
> >>> .
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> I would then set it to sort in reverse order so the most recent report
> is
> >>> automatically at the top, and they descend in chronological order. The
> >>> current sorting puts the most recent board report (2015/02) in the
> middle
> >>> of the pack, making it difficult to find. Good luck trying to find the
> >>> report directly prior to that.
> >>>
> >>> I will make the changes, unless anyone has other suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jim
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Kulp
> >> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>
>

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