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From Timothy Bish <tabish...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Fix Sorting of Board Reports
Date Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:16:40 GMT
On 04/09/2015 02:13 PM, Jim Gomes wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation. That helps.
>
> So, I guess we could discuss the merits of keeping the Board Reports on our
> wiki, as it does seem somewhat redundant. As long as they exist on the
> wiki, it would be helpful to have a better indexing system.
>
> Perhaps Hiram can offer background as to the purpose and intent of the
> Board Reports being published on the wiki?
>
> Best,
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jim Gomes <jgomes@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link, Dan. I didn't know those were there. I think the
>> main
>>> difference here is that link is to the Board Minutes, whereas the
>> ActiveMQ
>>> wiki has the Board Report. They seem to be identical, but will they
>> always
>>> be?
>> Possibly not, but it would NORMALLY be because the board has decided
>> something should be private (like names of people being voted on or
>> something) in which case it should likely not have been in our public
>> version as well.   Doesn't happen too often.  Also, they would remove any
>> "wiki formatting" type things that wouldn't look right in the text form
>> they use.
>>
>>
>>> And even if they are identical, do we still need to have the redundancy
>>> for trace-ability? For instance, if the Board, for whatever reason,
>> claims
>>> they didn't receive the report, we have documentation on the wiki showing
>>> the Report was produced.
>> I don't really think the board would care if one was produced or not.
>>  It's the chair's job to make sure the board gets the report.  If they
>> don't get it, they ask the chair to report again next month.   If the chair
>> consistently has issues, they'd likely replace the chair.    Another thing
>> to keep in mind:  it's the Chairs job to create the report that reflects
>> the state of the community.  The chair MAY include the wider community in
>> creating that report, but that's not a requirement.   Thus, saying "the
>> community produced one, the chair didn't submit it" really wouldn't matter
>> at all.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>> That's me just trying to understand the reason for the Board Report
>> page's
>>> existence.
>>>
>>> -Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No "objection", but why don't we just delete the page and point at the
>>>> official records:
>>>>
>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ActiveMQ.html
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jim Gomes <jgomes@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently went out to look at previous Board Reports (
>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/apache-activemq-board-reports.html) and
>> found
>>>>> the current sorting method difficult to deal with. Unless we are
>> required
>>>>> to use the page naming format, I would like to change it to the
>> following
>>>>> format:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.01 January
>>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.04 April
>>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.07 July
>>>>> .
>>>>> .
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> I would then set it to sort in reverse order so the most recent report
>> is
>>>>> automatically at the top, and they descend in chronological order. The
>>>>> current sorting puts the most recent board report (2015/02) in the
>> middle
>>>>> of the pack, making it difficult to find. Good luck trying to find the
>>>>> report directly prior to that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will make the changes, unless anyone has other suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jim
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>
>>
I believe that he does this as a place to create and edit them and allow
for other members to contribute if they so desire before he submits
them.  I've edited a couple in the past prior to submission to add CMS
or NMS release notes.

-- 
Tim Bish
Sr Software Engineer | RedHat Inc.
tim.bish@redhat.com | www.redhat.com 
twitter: @tabish121
blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/


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