Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13318175AF for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73667 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2015 19:59:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 73612 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2015 19:59:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 73583 invoked by uid 99); 24 Mar 2015 19:59:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:59:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=URI_HEX,URI_TRY_3LD X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [162.253.133.43] (HELO mwork.nabble.com) (162.253.133.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:59:23 +0000 Received: from mjoe.nabble.com (unknown [162.253.133.57]) by mwork.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C053A188480B for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: artnaseef To: dev@activemq.apache.org Message-ID: <1427226447977-4693757.post@n4.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <551185F4.7000508@redhat.com> <55118D02.6090902@gmail.com> <43BE8045-27EC-4ED2-8484-11930356E380@apache.org> <55119196.7030607@gmail.com> <1427214991662-4693742.post@n4.nabble.com> <5511BAA5.6060409@gmail.com> <1427224862635-4693750.post@n4.nabble.com> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache ActiveMQ 6.0.0 (RC3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org That's all marketing. Are there metrics to back it up? Last I understood, there is a very strong community using ActiveMQ. Old isn't much of an argument. For example, it was built before NIO, and yet it now supports NIO. Are there more specifics? Feedback on which no action can be taken is purely criticism, and I don't appreciate ActiveMQ being called a dinasour. Java, C, C++, Javascript, and others have been around even longer than ActiveMQ - will you deprecate them all? If there are critical issues behind ActiveMQ, let's get them out in the open. This is reminding me of the HawtIO discussion from last year - a lot of emotion behind it, but ultimately not much strength of reasoning. Let me turn this around. If we can't clearly enumerate the benefit to the ActiveMQ community (which is a deal-breaker for me), then why not start HornetQ as its own Apache project? Where is the downside? -- View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Apache-ActiveMQ-6-0-0-tp4692911p4693757.html Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.