Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05BB817FD2 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15373 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jan 2015 15:06:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 15311 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jan 2015 15:06:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 15297 invoked by uid 99); 29 Jan 2015 15:06:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:06:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of david_jencks@yahoo.com designates 98.138.91.72 as permitted sender) Received: from [98.138.91.72] (HELO nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.72) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:06:51 +0000 Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2015 15:05:27 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.125] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2015 15:05:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2015 15:05:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 493685.47630.bm@smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Y3KnqMwVM1kYEkPxraQBrLKVN4arGlSlbptvOVNhFxsDnsZ kbb3eXraXfaBS62Te0WVBYipXpUvKPpuLeY1JshcVaGlrIZeyq7qjSU7tBMH JDT_th3jVs3zw67OA1ITYSO.9YPq4CfbxAMgRVY6kGYy6_jbMgJJS0KFDt4L ogRxA2_eFeJ92Knpwq7NPoF9S3FdlyahEr7CQpEdk7qdrDlHF7niexwGJWjv r3UILkh9L3eOcA4w1SRWlxvmum8jj8L8VON7zvWQJvVaej16krGwWN84vo9H NqeX_CqMzuxknWrpn81ipcEbCcUjX3OfA4IhjtvVPNRmIIWWkAnKuBIUDzsF SC1rtkSGJda7w3aAURnEisqvdBj44WpoMK489UENYkh9VHYnL67GzO9Iy6lX ZwSRdTU50Uw39pnU8JdPSt0zTfsr6tSxJPnkf4il3oy82ReaIT.LVqUzxufh ovvIZUlIpJVd7X_QteG0_5oR35orW40txmUyxw0Cix.ZFR6cboedOm8tdAHD GZRfNXupBQtoj4IHuAiS94Ma2uYltAl4WEA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: .9oIUzyswBANsYgUm_5uPui0skTnzGJXJQ-- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Have every committer on the PMC by default From: David Jencks In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:05:24 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8EC43C5C-EE1E-4BF1-930B-5228373C1F05@yahoo.com> References: To: dev@activemq.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org James, Don't name names, but are there any actual existing real-life amq = committers who you think shouldn't be pmc members? My experience has = been that many projects start out with this worry but eventually decide = it is pointless and a waste of time=85. sort of "if they can mess with = the code, lets try to get them to do the extra work of being a pmc = member" :-) Given my rather minimal involvement in amq recently I'm not likely to = formally vote but I'd be +1. david jencks On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:32 AM, James Carman = wrote: > -1. Showing you have the technical chops to code (merit) !=3D the > ability to be a good steward and act on behalf of the foundation in > order to manage the project effectively. >=20 > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Gary Tully = wrote: >> In that way, committers that are interested in project management >> duties can indicate same with their votes. Effectively self elect to >> step up to the task. >>=20 >> What is the down side?