Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F3D8109AE for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 907 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2014 13:42:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 872 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2014 13:42:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 855 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2014 13:42:54 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:42:54 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,URI_HEX X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of paul.n.gale@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.173] (HELO mail-ob0-f173.google.com) (209.85.214.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:42:48 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id gq1so9886585obb.4 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:42:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=JOerTo5OmxJw8dC7yKp/wdb254oRVwU05+5YbJdlemU=; b=04kR5DAGchugEVaeoNG4qaq9yMspcv5oH/xfJPxPPacz4Lowgj+SHWcO/YwDjL2ECR A8AF2GLKTIPicxCaPxtdM7UDf/ZCTds9JiuV8HzIZ/0QFYXhTOehsO+SiJtw5wYXcxND j1cLmKLPnDboEeqstRjJfDyiPE014acFfLQPUeA47pptEzJgxgDi/hXZSHwfbgcuA14q 0sreiFUh0w++AgE/lx43w6OHRj0qr2jBxtFE+6bZlcyUfX4nWxtZ8e2MJ7z8Qbhp+U7Q XDnbrY96lUHKt5bQ2mnwLTn1r6+kFOfZqkpISUtmYf0kGh7raiPWCLnRRQazvZKNG7iX MvrQ== X-Received: by 10.60.142.229 with SMTP id rz5mr31741947oeb.1.1394631746320; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:42:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.70.104 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:41:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201403101643.04990.hadrian@apache.org> <201403111635.55781.hzbarcea@gmail.com> From: Paul Gale Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:41:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ActiveMQ 5.10 release date? To: dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b414e60d500fa04f469011a X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b414e60d500fa04f469011a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree completely. The sooner we can get 5.10 out the door the better. Ideally there should be a release every 6 weeks or so. Keep reducing the release interval until it becomes as pain free as possible. Thanks, Paul On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Gary Tully wrote: > this issue with release frequency and branch maintenance is simply > bandwidth. If you have bandwidth to cut a release now then spend it on > 5.10 and get it out this week. Push all 40 open issues to 5.11 and we > can cut that in a 3 months and get the ball rolling with more frequent > releases. > Any strong feeling about getting something into 5.10 can easily be > migrated to a strong feeling for 5.11 and expedite its arrival. > > I agree that 6 months is way too long a release cycle with the current > commit rate we have. > > On 11 March 2014 20:35, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > > I think there is. I don't know if 5.10 suffices for all needs, and I > don't know > > when 5.10 will come out. Currently there are over 40 issues open against > 5.10. > > My perception is that there are strong feelings about some of the issues > being > > fixed in 5.10 and for that reason my guess is that we'll wait a bit for > the > > 5.10 release. Also 300+ (by the time we release, probably 400+) commits > and 6+ > > months between releases seems a bit much for a successful open source > project. > > > > I also believe we should get back into the habit of maintaining (with > patch > > versions) at least one if not two prior minor releases. Right now the > only > > options user have are to either: > > 1. Wait some 6+ mo for the next minor release, which comes with fixes > and new > > problems. > > 2. Try to have have their own build and merge relevant patches themselves > > (afaik very, very few do that today) > > 3. Go to a commercially supported distro. > > > > Personally I am strongly in favor of having stable, supported branches > at the > > ASF. > > > > Cheers, > > Hadrian > > > > > > On Tuesday 11 March 2014 08:39:54 Gary Tully wrote: > >> is there really a need for 5.9.1 and 5.10. Does 5.10 not suffice for all > >> needs? > >> > >> On 10 March 2014 20:43, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > >> > There are some 342 commits since 5.9.0. It's easy to get them running: > >> > $ git log 87c9bbebacfe1d2248b4a55d601f0b089d40b742..HEAD > >> > > >> > (where 87c9bbebacfe1d2248b4a55d601f0b089d40b742 is the 5.9.0 release > tag) > >> > > >> > Because the resulting log is about 80k in size, I will not attach it > >> > here, but please find below the list of commits I believe we should > apply > >> > to the 5.9.1 release. Please let me know if I missed any or if you > >> > believe some commits should not be merged to 5.9.1. During the > following > >> > days I will try to merge them and start the 5.9.1 builds. > >> > > >> > The list is unexpectedly long, but many commits are test improvement > or > >> > one- liners. Feedback appreciated. 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c6fe94ec0388f2acb169c9e3839ade5dc7c2c65f > >> > 914beaeb4cc713c558098b0694fdb48fdfab473c > >> > 2b3c4777523f1ff19ab3a36ff8441fe2e22dd35d > >> > efcef4533e31191f097791e9a99d15a35573c453 > >> > a7ff5975eecf2e8dd9eb27c1d67e9f1370a4de6c > >> > cfe099d1cccf6655894eceaa29ce6a54ceaf21be > >> > 9c4621da8c37f15917f1e189f51ba04c084c2788 > >> > df0c195941537589d7cb224443f40899e2cda5bb > >> > 87daed76b26464583ede1066d77656823623da43 > >> > 52a2733535477c9464d4e15eea68cef826ac5738 > >> > 33b88d34a9c242787c5878c9192f77bbb163e446 > >> > 8188f7f884c96fe2174315be784bea2e560a09ba > >> > ---- > >> > > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Hadrian > >> > > >> >> On Thursday 06 March 2014 11:47:25 you wrote: > >> >> > I upgraded camel to the 2.12.3 which includes the security upgrade. > >> >> > There are also various test fixes that came in the past days that > >> >> > stabilized the builds. I also enabled the CI builds on the ASF > >> >> > servers (both java6 and java7). > >> >> > > >> >> > I think the trunk is now stable and we can start closing down on > the > >> >> > 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases. > >> >> > > >> >> > For 5.9.1 I believe the lazy consensus was on spin off a > maintenance > >> >> > branch off of the 5.9.0 tag and only apply targeted fixes. I will > >> >> > prepare a list of the patches since 5.9.0 and my take on what > should > >> >> > be merged. > >> >> > > >> >> > On 5.10.0 there are still some 45 issues open. Some of them depend > on > >> >> > a qpid proton release. Not sure if we could get things going in the > >> >> > qpid community. If not we may have to move them to a 5.10.1. I > will go > >> >> > to the list of issues and try to defer what's not urgent. I have > the > >> >> > cycles to start release builds as soon as this weekend or early > next > >> >> > week. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thoughts? > >> >> > Hadrian > >> >> > > >> >> > On Friday 28 February 2014 16:01:52 boday wrote: > >> >> > > yep, we need a 5.10 or even a 5.9.1 release to get this bug fixed > >> >> > > soon: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4832 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > -- > >> >> > > View this message in context: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-5-10-release-date-tp4 > >> >> > >678 36 6 p4678425.html Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list > >> >> > > archive at Nabble.com. > >> > > > > -- > http://redhat.com > http://blog.garytully.com > --047d7b414e60d500fa04f469011a--