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From Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ActiveMQ 5.10 release date?
Date Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:35:55 GMT
I think there is. I don't know if 5.10 suffices for all needs, and I don't know 
when 5.10 will come out. Currently there are over 40 issues open against 5.10. 
My perception is that there are strong feelings about some of the issues being 
fixed in 5.10 and for that reason my guess is that we'll wait a bit for the 
5.10 release. Also 300+ (by the time we release, probably 400+) commits and 6+ 
months between releases seems a bit much for a successful open source project.

I also believe we should get back into the habit of maintaining (with patch 
versions) at least one if not two prior minor releases. Right now the only 
options user have are to either:
1. Wait some 6+ mo for the next minor release, which comes with fixes and new 
problems.
2. Try to have have their own build and merge relevant patches themselves 
(afaik very, very few do that today)
3. Go to a commercially supported distro.

Personally I am strongly in favor of having stable, supported branches at the 
ASF.

Cheers,
Hadrian


On Tuesday 11 March 2014 08:39:54 Gary Tully wrote:
> is there really a need for 5.9.1 and 5.10. Does 5.10 not suffice for all
>  needs?
> 
> On 10 March 2014 20:43, Hadrian Zbarcea <hadrian@apache.org> wrote:
> > There are some 342 commits since 5.9.0. It's easy to get them running:
> > $ git log 87c9bbebacfe1d2248b4a55d601f0b089d40b742..HEAD
> >
> > (where 87c9bbebacfe1d2248b4a55d601f0b089d40b742 is the 5.9.0 release tag)
> >
> > Because the resulting log is about 80k in size, I will not attach it
> > here, but please find below the list of commits I believe we should apply
> > to the 5.9.1 release. Please let me know if I missed any or if you
> > believe some commits should not be merged to 5.9.1. During the following
> > days I will try to merge them and start the 5.9.1 builds.
> >
> > The list is unexpectedly long, but many commits are test improvement or
> > one- liners. Feedback appreciated. Commits are in chronological order
> > starting with the oldest:
> > ---
> >
> >> ee65ca4ee5fb277204bd084eab356479ff1f05d8
> >> ef45a5f8ffa0c5c36f1fb98f377ca0cb54b9cbd7
> >> f5dd1256e467966f14a7447a4cd1fc45f21f19a3
> >> 1896d27409d1fa6941f6c1744a1fa6f6899f3a01
> >> d4da85f39bb4f58293817cdd1703ddea66f66a3a
> >> c015a98e0ac54fa82a889d3e48396550a5905196
> >> 598f206a58d1dc14fbe48812ac28266789722dd8
> >> 092bc617080ebb1c7870b1878de6abf45b9790f6
> >> 85bc9ce9d01cb1174572ed23372e18d753837eec
> >> ae1da749b780520fad4a444f4b8babdfcb9a583d
> >> 0f09f78f3e04a712b0b066d0b2710c3d0af749e4
> >> 043a4ad4ff235ce28bc1bcbd594c50a262caf373
> >> ec97d0aad024890251d4105001f17c56d6090658
> >> c2eb4863a8cc4de79a7f63fea915bf9397981bb8
> >> da45d994ac31cb8ef78ff429fd7e26e5f6834749
> >> 928068dfd49f719beea2d9dbe589efa68d7d35ca
> >> aaa1a74dfb4c1b30686f9cf74d97565edd1b3621
> >> 22dc6d444a49c5fa5f47eaa4a8d155c28123b4d3
> >> f7311567a022dcdfb00126b4931a485a8afdb134
> >> 2a59294909d0d0ede024533bca04c86a46c14411
> >> 17415ceecde675cc925a83c80ba4558b60b81e6a
> >> 3ed52ef8a247496c7333ed0ded72f5bb8fda4e91
> >> 7dfb0a2a3c86528d3b7bfeef1fe2df38339b450b
> >> 24d5490e57f06bbf1384d828fc3448bf7c1f5b70
> >> 582af3e74adca7efbf7d88d092764325341b719d
> >> 855419359cefbdb31be38510db121b17170af42d
> >> 8a8fcb6ef4a8e7c5a35e03a8ea043e0984ef2cf8
> >> 5dacae368b125cd6371bc5d74cb1820ba0a5ca5a
> >> 190da29691cbebaf8bd315ad6b8be02f64cbb6b2
> >> 70e2b998d2941b4568e8da54bc1fed851b602d77
> >> 20747eedca6577af2031c107d4b1ec3b69724731
> >> 6e49ef3a600f9b6602dfc205137775b97c6e9e19
> >> 5469d806e8a8a94f774528fb65d6c52352ebce6f
> >> 65be281c16b277c0adb647ec864414c4e36bcb03
> >> 1ad6bd59ee60b622fc25749fe42a7570e105e92a
> >> 48d615d3113cf3d2a9d33bd5264c4f334d34b5c5
> >> 5907459fc341008b4310a5f66170e373c14cff01
> >> a6c14b41814552152df335cb7f811088eb7eb160
> >> 06356db1c4dda514be086961a891aff8765c63be
> >> d0f48b3ee504650330425707c363ea103be3c3dd
> >> 4ddbb8546d7ca50b57213da45f3fbd021ef7fe69
> >> 2824a94af4040552feba3818b84ac2fdf1f4dffe
> >> dea38e62f893a3ef3aa7cc21b87aef357f6fcae2
> >> b1d8cbe4cd91c53ac44db57f9952dc559a1db742
> >> a907fc9e942db4cdb58e3cfb6b366aaa9497e00e
> >> 4e3595d488efccd529c8b0164a00a42c8481f901
> >> d872994260df2f7591f35d6a260cb474e9508e4d
> >> 4367ec1b829f46da60bd592a671ea1ebc8aedcd7
> >> 67a7d30b4702647a8b51758e61aa628618f42fa9
> >> 002ef968674488d93522c558d6eb64810c669ad6
> >> ec5b15cc27bd851d11c5b9b503655e49eccdea33
> >> 50ec158e25d1ee81e788e29e15366e3955c8295f
> >> 982b728f24415513a18cb51097b5a10d2f9b66db    (???)
> >> 0d38840051490b37eba61df0be791fbdc7f1c346   (???)
> >> 42e1c463d4df7b210c9694aaf9dbe36c3d29a01b
> >> 692428eee5f7af1118881c1140ff45cd33e99d18  (???)
> >> 8f078a3f4ce0599f958c1363e55fbc966013cdba
> >> 38ab4b10a47614a07bb2e3be6e98ee4b23074e7e
> >> b0b3a169ce2cbec5353e3d625a94f9b6cee4765c
> >> 7e000d5a40f8bbb817dec42a8f9fd03de0f972d7  (???)
> >> 47d198513915532e1e8a3bcb0f9a6f98f5a794dd (???)
> >> d2ddd1dcadffc6f16901f634a6b04314f48f9d8d  (???)
> >> 4183e6e47c29f6d34313a83cb748b4c137b8a353  (???)
> >> 4f1754bdc242e2cd8766607908024891fe20bcde  (??? should be fixed)
> >> 497fbfc04b1fd8ab1db6afe72742a0755842a73d  (???)
> >> 2fd52c9dcf6740d35ed78c0a5d88937a13416412
> >> b977f24c79e3d98255477457bf7a80460ed36ccb  (???)
> >> a7895ae34e7afe096488feb7c929685d18dca77c  (??? - version upgrades, as
> >>  above) 6ed8f43d8d0d6a8f846ad5695f74ada014aa3f5e
> >> 5e5458ec38f7a204bb40174e13262c7b892de89b
> >> 13ba3008d488161d0e18934614cf244cbc5ff722
> >> 99278dfb9c31a2c73a3d798e17fe44e33fa8965c
> >> 2a6aab40b4def2add11755868b3bb17fe45908e8
> >> 7f639a60473c903333b0b0adabdc5473f54cf5ce
> >> c55a66692126c76b81cfd20c66749e3bf1bb8606
> >> 291ec5ea17817cb374c1a2342dd280ee986ebaa3
> >> 0a67b12c647bc3fb42542b640dfb698fcf802456
> >> e57aeb3786e952ec469f4aec80cc3bfd1d00125d  (???)
> >> c60af641653d69a0a7fce6088f2954f41b204a0a
> >> ff593bf3dd942b3072d9f6608f1ec6cedd3d5421
> >> a46db89b2a691f979d722e51a9540e7dfd61a845  (???)
> >> 030c2cca31fa41dc938b7a6a5904c90bfce6dfac  (???)
> >> 511b60c6f650650b24df34ac55dd174006b4cd43
> >> de58386607f6c080ae5466a17d5c9cdbd25b8df8
> >> bc1ca6c8cf3cfb36f552c6315f1a2ec359e3bb6b
> >> a3e3d487a33e48d0ef697340c5deacd7ba59bffe
> >> 25f4e874eb893c7ff24d0747e2b26006578ac80f
> >> c0090f6f0c94b502d8043ffaea20b57500188156  (regression?)
> >> 00cb9a566816357f3712e0de1ca0ee80815ddf0f
> >> b0e91d47f5fced59c89a34d993f4d87c7986b04b
> >> a6e306437efafc13cf2c2e9d681d5685fdfbcfce
> >> 927be0ce7af57daca70084574101ccfe506409da  (regression?)
> >> 7d98b320509ab460e337e54afd8043297164777c
> >> eead6e511083fa1c1a9595f8671a722630afb1e2
> >> e3fed4b57a295c73fcc98f2abbdd98d3a67baaba
> >> 06f24e2e0ba4dd6d8920d188482b9eb1e08ab888
> >> b9f0783af5f50bedfa316aade9ce577af4bc9c0f  (???)
> >> cfeea7797d9f3cbd5c0685f39d8b2a9cef77d8bb
> >> 61e13fa6ce03029df2eb78762d6bf11b07a36dd3
> >> f0334862a20c73ae82cc15003719838f40dccfe6
> >> 5fa462a08acd40b130fb98ad359a838def690450
> >> 07ec890372feb58ae69578fcc8f76483de178c70
> >> 69e35d6c4a77c1c693587dd84b9032118fa7b7bd
> >> 8378cb1ffc77715d3c9c8a173805f037afa2935a
> >> 02ef9445dddcffc5f701dcb43ef0fa3d6acbc307
> >> 489f929686f29190e7a3aba252767ba38159bdde
> >> 9b889024596dc47dea4917551a2d5813796a6b19
> >> 374cab9cd528ed9f456addc2ef247ebfae68f2c0
> >> 8b06c44cc0028565b1de42bebad024f20fbc1a00
> >> 7cf5c240a260c30572729b3a1b29863b64935a44
> >> 3b5fa4bf8955f15dd1f52703c7578a054beb74e6
> >> 044c2d98ff8be9a731ef477fc704ac196863f684
> >> ed8e4eae8f79b6f88562d3008292a1927b21786d
> >> 30f3a9b7f39573b89a86302d69782b4a2a35a4eb
> >> d0f1dd6668ed56c2369525818031096cd87cee98
> >> b21dc69e815a97da922f5122d124d317aab7b78e
> >> 3797da64fcd13f2b8a6458fddc02a11c8f0c1fb6
> >> b7c430d0683c8f682c5a88a063a8bbdda0ebdf07
> >> 71e45856897dd96d403e01fdf1f912b1420444c8
> >> fe36820b86c891217db83130e8ab3e42cd762baf
> >> 6683eb652f0f4efe6130bb72410ae36e93b6868a
> >
> > 2bbfbcfb29463f9723a0efe548d46af7ddb3fbb6
> > 6258ce1761538035059399b605ee10d4a2316263
> > 0b581104c71c28006f482e4e3557e2c66bdf1f2d
> > 26c41d0362d9f4bf27568e6ce7fcfd7e2e59fde8
> > e64da4a71fd3d5d1e9b59a62727af72ee577e8bf
> > 78c4e43372baac8fcc93a7093f4006d8205117ae
> > e1e8c5b083e0c9f6e6c6f4dd25d35ad039fc4ca1
> > dcedd9fe96a208d9465c73c370821525e148d398
> > cb5c29d02d02dc7f7fa4f5c1a97bd2a59078bccd
> > 257710ba1a40e0ac78f5f8035d9663775e122d41
> > a6d05daba6135dc3096b906643451950cd577d2f
> > 7c01c9b5818f10dcf92dd6696b736605d7dc17e8
> > c387e842ee16dcfc6d4de7bd3acf9f0f5595775d
> > a64976a3774eeecc2830bdfc3bf70499f9cfccb1
> > 57f5d49ae9a76f2a3a17fa7c7966130c7a7352fe
> > 7656e8262c0c0871190c01753e8b0bb8a600d8f4
> > c50b6c39babb9e0c4265e632aabf9c38f69c6730
> > 14d24cca30bbbde9c515004fd72234c7a1fe3039
> > 44b25cb7a1385ba0e019db97e9fe9899737b2d0f
> > 7db0fe6a3859cadb4658318e7db262a34fe36b17
> > 760ee2677a55131a09306ddda9bcb058beab6ab3
> > 96bdda716a2f4f15620528e9869c00a11242bb98
> > f69cbd8ec6ec7cfa78a83892d32c7bb3bbd3a7d1
> > ed66e3b3410ccc81bf52b158b1b0ec86f6300951
> > 97b12c7245be24356314fbe333491461eb9b892c
> > 04c6d9dd69402038d78104f1cc48c22e30edfddc
> > cf2083f06b1dcc2828d1e053030f63a9760c6344
> > 3af70ba285057e3a82d68bb6d8825a05f16fcdb6
> > f92d45bec1be76b1e38d3be2d9700bbdd9054d17
> > 0f0c0d676a852db0d5dae5863d3464ea23a3085d
> > 283cdd0502d61e5ee339c80de5c0ff27f05c239f
> > be8990e06d53eebef8db7404e4cf4aa71df13590
> > efc51fa4487f80027a1ff95de7e5bd7479eaab47
> > cc47ab6d002a0810f44b1cd8c40ed97c822b7e08
> > a33a4e769335300556f938b1da803b07078f881d
> > efb988655cbad639bba5e83475310ee702f501ee
> > ef619b6a9bb9fd215a3996c8dc49f21e04380547
> > 6377d49a1c2e501b7f9daa39a4ed91e8cf4114b1
> > 2a7c3499766c961c6996429af82c3ee374d24a33
> > 5c9dcee7ed4b4a13f54e9221be4891d2ac0f0f9e
> > 08f21ed71d44a819e969174596f3118ea318627c
> > 11ae61f5398445c05da2b5dc0c32d2633921335e
> > 6044c4c059d25adae3d4ccb37f10751e1b3824a9  (regression?)
> > 3d63ca75fbd5251328323d49987eba8da5d7f6e8
> > 40c09ed5e5ba8b3f647d765a8cec1e298c871bfc
> > 6549342061eae34da8f25460e70d832666d730e2
> > 612a816d986d74eaf23b4b07ba0adb26a135098a  (???)
> > 5e42bd64bcf3c1557f2f108f57124e3e066ec158  (???)
> > e56c062f279dc110df4707024654b2b7c40f6c1d  (???)
> > a2ede974b95261885404a02f32a918dbd9213f51
> > 082d2634952b48a93077644f7b88872c1fa3635d
> > 0918430dc20b6d2952ce393d218c355135de466e
> > e7703f70e0f679d0534379be26aa3de612747f93
> > 9b00a0947e2cf8e603b89070afebf22123867f4f
> > 82cd2566830ac2b523387f441b0771c6ef408721  (may have conflicts)
> > 48d25adfc834c5a8502f22354edad31374763053
> > f7cbe9fa173f1f3cf91d016ed340f90a2bd61242
> > a50f01127276f45797cbe8623790aa2de818841d
> > d29bab50e5f110f677f041c4f3602dc3ce5d76d4
> > 18e163de5e12fe8b88e5ce0b60cec461948573a5
> > 286a5a6b498a456be73efd19b20289f1c6d2abe3
> > e366917efc28a4da29e8b4220220c1005972ed87
> > 90104943b28cac1a95b037fae8e338ffe04398fd
> > dd0c9c414449406266c72712aea65472b5a2f63a
> > d8cd37030ba51a14623abc4fbe168454b36c2970
> > 3826a23ed5e77115170f3ac57dc2385234473f1b
> > dea05884710b451bbdf74d91719e7c8be95af7b4
> > 95d20e5b47aeb179493fba5b1f40df9f237538db
> > ad3041034b3a0d126575297821425f7bbca977f0
> > 55da9bc821184a320fc551ec8e131d1dcbf0d2bb
> > 713250f5f0439e4f83de1550fe21068184f17f87
> > fde22a8496a160fc746c6f193dea3f29d113c6e3
> > 907660d2cfa5f5a6d67c93ec62dffd4ff2e87ff0
> > 4273b1301dc6315c28fb9841b97a0bf77b81515b
> > cce75e092665060dad6675b91300e832ebb252a4
> > 8b993b4dc6de85199f2ac19b178275180859ed15
> > 19344991af148ea46ef0492c1f9561a93f610448
> > 2f9c43f11fe0fed5939512c48e611e6ae0b117b6
> > c7d66e944d94c7452273d8ca998e7c506e385ade
> > f5e54cf75cbf7dc48fc894a8f6db5880c2abcd49
> > 875822de5172607496e7bd219a177213df92b7cd
> > bcd89e8d15de4a072758ca22f195d594d2b3d89f
> > 69e6ad8cf3b43e1e1eb12d6c9c2e87d72a4aa789
> > d36e3c0e952643eccdfdf075d32dbf41eeb2aa71
> > d4d985503e79334b45cc13d5757a47a7afbb68da
> > f4e768760f2e66f155baf83f76cdb24af828a5fe
> > da3775302c68c628138a221409910ff9c4ca48a6
> > cbc227cd1c626cf0ba74ff7d8eafe4d0deb1ab40
> > bdf7aa4823fd6bf7d2e3e1ae32158542b05b9ed3
> > 127f82a4392caeec2913144a72a61f53c79d5625
> > f222741fdc5e5b8b5dc401e054abbf5a77ff63dc
> > f74a65f4f5e712051c33ed7b44605dc3cbb93f7f
> > 5a80cee9608fdf93fde7d5b132d6ddd8a9eba946
> > 9eb7fb9062651e0db04430ee497639b054dd6da3
> > e102e64e9da9477494e73fe7291f15cf50b4ad70
> > 146fb121086f5aee41c58785e57199ee7a6a95e4
> > 43a88a9367e3680ed427f6bcbe03f87f3f7bac91
> > 3321f99643edc5ebc4bd8f4b9eaea90744fc6d60
> > 17d1489c62b6bc33b77bce38eeecdc357f9c61bf
> > 2e5a64652d57020ca6cb6fbd03bcf61ceb65b93d  (regression?)
> > 5f9aca837a14e719c94c330238c920997046ef90
> > 117f86e10e18dd2767520eabc2d7d56bc4db292b
> > 221a751d0a67e8d1f240d30a2f56c71a31d7627c
> > 4985e08ea8140b787817904cb99112a48c907928
> > f88043eaf7fc1c089b4ffe2770743e28e7b8f6fb
> > afded924ffde28c1f491db761774e14c5e954413
> > 0c4790bb946127ebb9a153c1fba1e3140917aad6
> > 519d8f7db0d3243cb3b60b156369f3f069e20e52
> > 1e7dc12c3098061a421ba709b00aaf07d3e63b69
> > 301866d151aaea008b20be92605c82a9314c756e
> > 4c38b03d14f2d8e803d79272ae08d79b52105959
> > 314b6e1fd703902cf1b3e14759dfd4db58ca7afa
> > fbd72d6d70bd840f0bb7f6e3a2d124e62036d4e7
> > be6b4830ecf96e68d0523615b378b4a5c3f99ff8
> > 973580603097f5e620e4d7f375dbbbbbb3581c84
> > e2a7d6af5a447330e3e180e681c9964332c36558
> > 6e68a3711561ed24bd78603453c81c5bbaf99f24
> > 706830268e1cecfe165feb444ee5b62e954e7d33
> > a116960f340c6634ff1d718df5de8c1cc0d8e42a
> > 190a44bf25a7484e3a0c6178890c953824fbdf3c
> > a059bf4a9013539899bfdf49aebd868b867e2b82
> > 93ca04468bc4e586ea3b271268355c91d3228e31
> > 7b555c28986c93aea74cd8b6ce2839f11a2c58b2
> > c8402a6e34d85f5ada7685f56983fb5501358baa
> > ec249f4dac29b0b566703b9235f25aacfa2b6ac6
> > f42d56c1f8601d96fa53ff59ce69f9a97dd31e9c
> > b679787917fe3cbf42f6dcd6bc8e9d7e853e5659
> > b97fa15d53b2240b3d9059a311cfcede7f6ff0ee
> > da63f3f20a348b29b43ef84bb7a4f6b02d2cd35c
> > 7453b77cd7b01fde66a905ada86d4525c25e22d5
> > 3a48b654c6d370eaf40a1925e9ce673eb53a6d11
> > dc0996d1e5e133b4b112ee09871c905767668081
> > c1cedb5c34857f99108e58e806de02cc8f9d6620 (regression?)
> > 28c565c266cffe2c8ab92bfdd75e972e568022bc
> > f364b8a391f9597913e7b16bcf8376ecab68eec6
> > dcbac84a8c4d9dabeb793081557d3bb5c6694d51
> > c6fe94ec0388f2acb169c9e3839ade5dc7c2c65f
> > 914beaeb4cc713c558098b0694fdb48fdfab473c
> > 2b3c4777523f1ff19ab3a36ff8441fe2e22dd35d
> > efcef4533e31191f097791e9a99d15a35573c453
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> > ----
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Hadrian
> >
> >> On Thursday 06 March 2014 11:47:25 you wrote:
> >> > I upgraded camel to the 2.12.3 which includes the security upgrade.
> >> > There are also various test fixes that came in the past days that
> >> >  stabilized the builds. I also enabled the CI builds on the ASF
> >> > servers (both java6 and java7).
> >> >
> >> > I think the trunk is now stable and we can start closing down on the
> >> > 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases.
> >> >
> >> > For 5.9.1 I believe the lazy consensus was on spin off a maintenance
> >> > branch off of the 5.9.0 tag and only apply targeted fixes. I will
> >> > prepare a list of the patches since 5.9.0 and my take on what should
> >> > be merged.
> >> >
> >> > On 5.10.0 there are still some 45 issues open. Some of them depend on
> >> > a qpid proton release. Not sure if we could get things going in the
> >> > qpid community. If not we may have to move them to a 5.10.1. I will go
> >> > to the list of issues and try to defer what's not urgent. I have the
> >> > cycles to start release builds as soon as this weekend or early next
> >> > week.
> >> >
> >> > Thoughts?
> >> > Hadrian
> >> >
> >> > On Friday 28 February 2014 16:01:52 boday wrote:
> >> > > yep, we need a 5.10 or even a 5.9.1 release to get this bug fixed
> >> > > soon:
> >> > >
> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4832
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > View this message in context:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-5-10-release-date-tp4
> >> > >678 36 6 p4678425.html Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list
> >> > > archive at Nabble.com.
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