Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50815D23D for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1747 invoked by uid 500); 12 Oct 2012 10:02:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-activemq-dev-archive@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 1270 invoked by uid 500); 12 Oct 2012 10:01:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@activemq.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@activemq.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@activemq.apache.org Received: (qmail 1214 invoked by uid 99); 12 Oct 2012 10:01:50 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:01:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rajdavies@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.43] (HELO mail-bk0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:01:41 +0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id w5so1299018bku.2 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:01:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=L2zq4N1vVtWYHwjaenODS7vhUpf5iAw9E9GrTuagDfs=; b=PaYKTrY4OUWdpCja/UxmnhWQxqpxC28rHKSdrMZX75UQq+KcpKAOjl3ZVipw1nRyP7 Lhsflv8h7GsK7ycAWrFRXn4YguC0ygOXylrLjFOZE+Xj5OvrPl26SpvBCbzs/5bjojUs 4j+HDQXs5oHvOsd0D86+zYfBymBS+yp+rs/3pQNk+tMbTviBftoF15Jm+5HY0YZN7FWw 1/vhRV/vt8I+KHV+LrG5EV+eEZFVlPS7mPylHr4yHbV8L0vmBP4NThSYQC9USMiXCXUk q9WRchG4TnpurbEq5HGPWcs7L5QzNXhPSaSis49ZzCGpgVOvfYs1NgdO/329lfotUk/V QxyQ== Received: by 10.204.147.89 with SMTP id k25mr1142055bkv.127.1350036080271; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.200.5.35] (nat-pool-ams2-wlan-u.redhat.com. [209.132.186.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x13sm5247640bkv.16.2012.10.12.03.01.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [REPORT] Apache ActiveMQ - October 2012 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Rob Davies In-Reply-To: <2E0184BF-A406-4B09-9D2E-71FBBC3B9F70@apache.org> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:01:18 +0100 Cc: Hiram Chirino Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2A282BE8-6807-4978-BB44-6F042BBCD0FB@gmail.com> References: <2E0184BF-A406-4B09-9D2E-71FBBC3B9F70@apache.org> To: dev@activemq.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Hi Jeff - inlined: On 11 Oct 2012, at 18:33, Jeff Genender wrote: > Cool report=85 just a quick note about the trademarks. >=20 > Apache has what is known as "common law" trademark. You cannot use = the "R" symbol unless it is registered as a trademark with the USPTO. = According to the USPTO, the trademark currently belongs to "LogicBlaze" = of which I believe the common law trademark by Apache trumps it and if = fought in court, Apache would likely win (incubation occurred in 2005 = and the registered trademark occurred in 2006). Since LogicBlaze was = acquired in the following order... >=20 > Logicblaze -> IONA -> Progress -> RedHat >=20 > It would stand to reason that RedHat would probably be the official = owner of this trademark and Apache would probably need to get the = ownership transferred. LogicBlaze (Winston) supposedly gave the trade mark for ActiveMQ and = ServiceMix to the ASF. Iona asked for the paper work for this = transaction but there isn't any - and the trademarks were not actually = acquired by IONA (because LogicBlaze no longer owned them). I suspect = that the paper got left in a bar of in some ones bottom draw. cheers, Rob=