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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:27:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apollo 1.0 Beta 1 (2nd Attempt)
From: Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com>
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Hi Bruce that sounds good to me.  Apollo is storing it's documentation
along with the project under the apollo-website module so that we can
keep the documentation versioned in lock step with the project.  It
also makes it easier to include the same documentation in the binary
distribution.  Feel free to add more guides :)


Regards,
Hiram

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com> wr=
ote:
>> Yeah I guess the gettings started guide is complicated by a couple of
>> extra steps.
>>
>> I think once we implement:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3267
>> Which is dejan's suggestion, it should become more streamlined.
>>
>> We could also remove the BDB part, but I'd hesitate to do that because
>> the BDB store implementation does provide a much smoother performance
>> characteristic than the included JDBM. =A0And one of the first thing
>> folks are going to want to do with a new broker is see how it
>> performs.
>>
>> I don't really care if it's called beta or alpha. =A0The reason I picked
>> beta is because I don't see us putting any more major features into
>> the release. =A0It just needs go through a couple QA cycles to clean out
>> bugs / streamline the user experience.
>
> Agreed, and we should elaborate on those suggested changes so that so
> that we are leading folks down a path to success. My advice is that we
> provide a series of guides:
>
> 1) A 'Getting Started With Apollo in 10 Minutes' guide. This guide
> serves as the first time user's guide to getting started with Apollo.
> It's basically a smoke test for Apollo in your environment.
>
> 2) A 'How to Make Apollo Screaming Fast in 10 More Minutes' guide.
> This guide is focused on improving Apollo's speed. It provides
> suggestions on which items to change, how to change them and the
> expected benefits of making such changes.
>
> 3) A 'Diving Deeper With Apollo' guide. This gives people a
> thinking-in-Apollo mindset, provides a high level diagram of the
> internals, explains extension points, areas to extend, etc.
>
> We need to provide some dead simple steps to getting started as well
> as taking the next steps to dive deeper in . Without this, the
> experience winds up being a needle-in-a-haystack chase for new users,
> even if they have already used ActiveMQ. I'd really like to see many
> different guides get created over time, each with a different focus
> (e.g., different app quality of service requirements, different
> business areas, different broker environments, etc.).
>
> Again, I'm very willing to begin working on this stuff. As I dig into
> Apollo to learn what it's all about, I can begin to create these
> guides on the wiki with the intention that they live and change as
> appropriate. These are only some initial suggestions.
>
> Bruce
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