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From Jim Gomes <e.se...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apollo 1.0 Beta 1 (2nd Attempt)
Date Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:33:08 GMT
+1 on the Getting Started guides.  I like that style of layered approach.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah I guess the gettings started guide is complicated by a couple of
> > extra steps.
> >
> > I think once we implement:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3267
> > Which is dejan's suggestion, it should become more streamlined.
> >
> > We could also remove the BDB part, but I'd hesitate to do that because
> > the BDB store implementation does provide a much smoother performance
> > characteristic than the included JDBM.  And one of the first thing
> > folks are going to want to do with a new broker is see how it
> > performs.
> >
> > I don't really care if it's called beta or alpha.  The reason I picked
> > beta is because I don't see us putting any more major features into
> > the release.  It just needs go through a couple QA cycles to clean out
> > bugs / streamline the user experience.
>
> Agreed, and we should elaborate on those suggested changes so that so
> that we are leading folks down a path to success. My advice is that we
> provide a series of guides:
>
> 1) A 'Getting Started With Apollo in 10 Minutes' guide. This guide
> serves as the first time user's guide to getting started with Apollo.
> It's basically a smoke test for Apollo in your environment.
>
> 2) A 'How to Make Apollo Screaming Fast in 10 More Minutes' guide.
> This guide is focused on improving Apollo's speed. It provides
> suggestions on which items to change, how to change them and the
> expected benefits of making such changes.
>
> 3) A 'Diving Deeper With Apollo' guide. This gives people a
> thinking-in-Apollo mindset, provides a high level diagram of the
> internals, explains extension points, areas to extend, etc.
>
> We need to provide some dead simple steps to getting started as well
> as taking the next steps to dive deeper in . Without this, the
> experience winds up being a needle-in-a-haystack chase for new users,
> even if they have already used ActiveMQ. I'd really like to see many
> different guides get created over time, each with a different focus
> (e.g., different app quality of service requirements, different
> business areas, different broker environments, etc.).
>
> Again, I'm very willing to begin working on this stuff. As I dig into
> Apollo to learn what it's all about, I can begin to create these
> guides on the wiki with the intention that they live and change as
> appropriate. These are only some initial suggestions.
>
> Bruce
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