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From: Paul Bakker <paul.bakker@luminis.eu>
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Subject: Re: My first impression of ace
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Hi Bram,

It's a bad practice to depend on deployment (or start) order in OSGi. This =
means, most of the time, that service dynamics are not dealt with correctly=
. This will also cause problems when updating bundles, and because of that =
you should never rely on this. It might be difficult if it's framework code=
 that causes these problems, but you should probably try to fix the root is=
sue.

Cheers,=20

Paul

On May 29, 2013, at 20:06 , Bram Pouwelse <bram@pouwelse.com>
 wrote:

> Hi Marcel, Bram,
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> @Marcel
> Thanks for your quick and detailed reply.
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> @Bram
> I'll checkout the commandline tool and check of it can help me make thing=
s
> easier.
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> Today I've encountered a new problem to overcome first, ace deploys the
> bundles in a random order and my JPA related bundles don't really like se=
em
> to like that :(
>=20
> Regards,
> Bram
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>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 2013/5/29 Bram de Kruijff <bdekruijff@gmail.com>
>=20
>> Hello Bram! :)
>>=20
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Bram Pouwelse <bram@pouwelse.com> wrote=
:
>>> Hi,
>>>=20
>>> In the last few weeks we've started using ace for a project as an attem=
pt
>>> to simplify the deployment procedure for one of our applications. And i=
t
>>> certainly has the potential to do that!
>>> But the last few days we're doing a lot of "snapshot" releases (remove
>>> bundle -> store -> purge from repo -> add bundle -> store).
>>> This does the job but isn't there an easier way to replace a bundle in
>> the
>>> repo?
>>=20
>> I have just dropped some code [0] in my sandbox that may interest you.
>> It is a command line tool specifically to ease and automate these
>> tasks. It is just a first version, but it already does the basics and
>> works on my machine ;) I would love to get some attention and feedback
>> on this. See the README [1] for a quick impression.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> your namesake
>>=20
>> [0] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=3Drevision&revision=3Dr1487431
>> [1]
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ace/sandbox/bramk/org.apache.ace.cli/README=
.md?view=3Dmarkup&pathrev=3D1487431
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Besides that in the past 2 days ace stopped updating the target. After
>>> removing a bundle from the artifact list and a "store" the bundle is no=
t
>>> removed from the target.
>>>=20
>>> I've tried to fix this by: (no luck)
>>> - Restarting the ace server
>>> - Restarting the agent on the target
>>> - Restarting the target (without clean)
>>> - Restarting the target in a clean state (this resulted in a target
>>> without bundles provisioned by ace)
>>>=20
>>> What did work was removing the contents from the bundle-cache folder, b=
ut
>>> after removing I need to  define features and distributions again.
>>>=20
>>> What would be the best way to find out why the target isn't updated
>>> anymore?
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>>> This was all using the server-allinone jar built from trunk 2 weeks ago=
,
>>> today I've updated to the latest version. (then again I needed to remov=
e
>>> the bundle-cache and my config is gome).
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>>>=20
>>> Thanks for creating ace!
>>>=20
>>> Bram
>>=20