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From Christopher Brind <bri...@brindy.org.uk>
Subject Re: Moving the web UI to Vaadin...
Date Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:40 GMT
Hey Toni, :)

I'm too modest. ;-)

Plus there are a few similar ideas being touted around.  A few of us started
a Vaadin-OSGi discussion group (it's a little quiet though):
http://groups.google.com/group/vaadin-osgi

Peter Kriens has taken a similar approach to myself, but I believe his work
is EPL (could be wrong). ;-)

Cheers,
Chris



On 13 October 2010 10:38, Toni Menzel <toni@okidokiteam.com> wrote:

> Yes, i think for a rapidly developed but maintainable and complete
> admin console - like what we need for ace server - Vaadin looks like a
> valid option.
> I would not concider vaadin for middle or large scale web-wide
> deployments though. If Vaadin's radical "all server side - client =
> stupid" approach applies to a usecase then its probably the ace server
> admin ui.
>
> I am a little concerned why there isn't a well spread OSGi Web Toolkit
> yet. Just because this question pops up regularly and i haven't seen
> an answer yet. Maybe something pops out while ace server ui is being
> implemented with vaadin e.g.
>
> @Chris,
> vaadin-osgi looks like a start in the right direction. ;) Just its
> hidden in vaadin extensions. Think you would not find it if you not
> consider vaadin already ? If its decent, why not take it to a broader
> audience ?
>
> Toni
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Christopher Brind
> <brindy@brindy.org.uk> wrote:
> > Hi Marcel,
> >
> > I've done a fair amount of work with Vaadin and OSGi and am working on a
> > project for a customer with such.  It's not 100% perfect, but as long as
> > you're not adding a lot of custom components you can build UIs quite
> rapidly
> > and in a modular way.
> >
> > I've created an OSGi compatibility layer that lets you create Vaadin
> > applications as DS components.  The official download is here:
> > http://vaadin.com/directory#addon/vaadin-osgi
> >
> > ... but my github repository is more up to date:
> > http://github.com/brindy/VaadinOSGi
> >
> > Feel free to use it if you want, it's Apache licensed. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 13 October 2010 09:34, Marcel Offermans <marcel.offermans@luminis.nl
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> Some time ago, we started work on a web based UI for ACE based on GWT.
> >> Feature wise, GWT is great, providing a nice web UI that supports things
> >> like drag and drop. There are two big downsides of GWT though:
> >>
> >> The first is that the javascript generation is rather slow, making the
> >> development cycle when doing UI updates fairly slow.
> >>
> >> The second is that there is no way to modularize the GWT based UI. You
> >> always have to compile it in one go.
> >>
> >> In my opinion, Vaadin [1], a toolkit built on top of GWT that is
> released
> >> under the Apache Licence Version 2.0, solves both issues nicely. I'm
> >> seriously considering moving the whole UI to it. WDYT?
> >>
> >> Greetings, Marcel
> >>
> >> [1] http://vaadin.com/
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>

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