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From Toni Menzel <>
Subject Re: Status Mavenization of ACE
Date Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:43:38 GMT
Hi all,

Today i managed try out some thoughts on how to do the ACE Target story
(used & loved in the ant build version).
Basically those target definitions are sets of ace bundles and some extra
components (like dependencymanager & configadmin etc.)
Because this is also a very good way to test our bundles (using pax exam), i
was looking for a way to
- reuse the maven infrastructure
- reuse this definition as much as possible for different scenarios

For that reason there is now a artifact called "ace-target-devgateway" which
holds the nessessary set of bundles in its pom (as regular dependencies).
When this is built, it just copies the fully resolved pom (with all version
details and that) into its jar artifact (under epom.xml, just look at the
jar if in doubt).
At this point we can use it to provision any pax runner and pax exam
directly, as shown in the first Integration Test in (new) artifact

With this, i think it is pretty easy to continue stacking together the
target definition(s), running "tests" (currently it just checks if every
bundle resolves+starts), interpreting the possible error log and fix BND
settings as appropriate.

One more word on the ace-target-devgateway stufff:
currently there is just the bundlelist (in pom), but i am playing with
embedding & extracting the default settings (as before in those "conf"
folders) in them as well. Not sure how this turns out, yet.

Keep it going.
@Brian, will contact you later tomorrow. Saw you are in the US timezone.


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Brian Topping <> wrote:

> On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>  No worries, man.
>> You can feel lucky, cause it was a more messy work organizing the mass of
>> resources into single artifacts than anything else.
>> ;)
> Well, it might have been a problem for multiple people to work on at the
> same time too!
>> Now, i you could check things out and try to make a dev-server  or
>> dev-gateway target (use pax runner to easily grab the maven artifacts
>> using
>> the mvn:<groupId>:<artifactId>:<version>).
>> Not sure, are you aware of Pax Runner ?
> Yes, I am familiar with it, but getting experience with tools like this is
> a great goal for me.
>> When trying, you will see really fast that things don't work out because
>> the
>> bundles are (mostly) default bnd settings.
>> You should compare the contents+manifest of the maven build artifacts and
>> the ones from core/deploy/bundles (built by ant).
> Yes, I've done this kind of thing before, for an Ant build conversion that
> had 80 sub-builds.  They had written a plugin for Ant that could read
> Eclipse metadata for dependency management.  Nobody at the company was left
> to know how the build worked, but there were still a dozen people who used
> it on a daily basis, it was weird.

hehe ;)

>  Then, i think its enough for most of the cases to tweak the osgi.bnd file
>> (bnd files, used by maven-bundle-plugin) in the right direction to get the
>> desired shape.
>> Changing Export-Package, Private-Package and and adding Embed-Dependency
>> where appropriate.
>> (we call the ANT build the reference)
> Sounds good.
>  So, i think you just start over when you have some time and look at those
>> things and don't hesitate to commit the changes.
> Ok, sounds good.  I was hoping to write you last night with some success
> from my desktop machine, newly rebuilt on a couple of SSDs in a RAID 0, but
> had some delays.  Turns out maybe the RAID card is not ready to work with
> disks that are that fast yet.
>  If you want, we can skype/gmailchat tomorrow ?
>> My skype is tonitcom, gmail is
> Ok, I've added you, I am 'topping' on Skype, on
> gtalk.  Team members, please feel free to add me!
>> have fun,
>> Toni
> Thanks, cheers.
> Brian
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Brian Topping <>
>> wrote:
>>  Hi Toni,
>>> I was starting to feel like I had missed the boat for helping out, so I'm
>>> glad you asked.
>>> What can I do here? Would you like to take the lead on task delegation or
>>> should we just jump in?
>>> Cheers, Brian
>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>> at [1] we now have not less than 50 maven artifacts, made of what i
>>>> found
>>>> in
>>>> build.xml (project-bundle calls).
>>>> All bundles are pre-configured with the standard maven-bundle-plugin
>>>> (2.0)
>>>> behavior.
>>>> Exceptions are:
>>>> - multigatewaybootstrap
>>>> - Webstart Management Agent
>>>> Both are pretty much distributions and should be not ported 1:1 but
>>>> using
>>>> the maven way (assembly plugin for example). Saved that for later, once
>>>> things work.
>>>> - webui
>>>> Done as ACE-69.
>>>> Having that said, they are not identical to the bundles produced by the
>>>> ant
>>>> build yet.
>>>> This is going to be the next step (see
>>>> for a complete list)
>>>> As a third step, the webui is going to be ported using the
>>>> maven-gwt-plugin.
>>>> I found that an extra library is required (dnd-gwt). Unfortunately the
>>>> author has not been pushed it to a maven repo. Have already contacted
>>>> the
>>>> author about it.
>>>> As last resort we always can push it ourselves to any repo.
>>>> Just you know the state of affairs. At this stage, work could be split
>>>> up
>>>> pretty nicely. So if one wants to step up ?
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Toni
>>>> [1]
>> --
>> Toni Menzel
>> Independent Software Developer
>> Professional Profile:
>>     - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
>> Participation Software.

Toni Menzel
Independent Software Developer
Professional Profile:     - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
Participation Software.

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