Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B84200C8C for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 20:20:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 06440160BC6; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DA5E160BB7 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 20:20:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 4220 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2017 18:20:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@accumulo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 4204 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2017 18:20:37 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:20:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id BB41AC0A66 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:20:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.121 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l-JcUsq9SViK for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg0-f49.google.com (mail-pg0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 44AF15F254 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id v18so27641878pgb.1 for ; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:20:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3dPfFBkEes6HE14wDCMQ+CwZRyRUzr3NUqEM/LvM1ow=; b=Ic1GoYpx3eQ5UmurfSAOlWbGhzHGwVWf2mo/Xcc9lDp2yi+p3DjjN/bjalIIGELlfr c7jk6IzVOMyKi8GbIX0kBlNUpcDW+F6Qie8XIVZ19iC3uoxF5f+PPno2Y6hpI9Z/6dSE dFhmUl2VVW3aRwubLK9sVkHPD1doJMZYBlsdB7CJ81cZEq7BvhP1bzV4GNiH94oeRNTf yNqL6vRJ10sGu9xZtaHmGSQd4cfO8b1YY4bnm7ml2T2CKH3nGegfnIy6Zkp7CuYofx17 aFAbDEwyzBIqPWQUuOV+gVBHzD0p4ieGN6PmwE0fd96m2ETT/NCrMscztQ3AbxccPIHB cvYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3dPfFBkEes6HE14wDCMQ+CwZRyRUzr3NUqEM/LvM1ow=; b=Kd6+JJkpEfRQAyHBH/WmrWumhPQlLj51LsFNDCxiZ3VAlns7vnkI7i0ew2+eDWE+Jq 46y1jyreXZmRZ9tv0QkxqJHonoLmPgUd1nwQIrGSXDjLhSegfV7lN0HY4dDAjTD//hWC xRziLdF8yTKrkXohLs5WD5L03n1E6WpEv13QjPpQErGPuAtpcMDVSPTQMhkGIn923f+l ay+uA6WOEO8H5xkKtjgVTStK6k58KI/bT9nEvk0L3lJNw6xr3Dh2ELEkh8eegq9Wd6As YDGOF7gGFMusD1t387d0UnMaXgXnI1C4ym5uAJDLztwsEwKqZifJKmkfFaVlM/iGHB/2 t21Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAKNcKJSVDVfN+tHhOg8T3Tch7+VUqyrQb/c8DUXGLW2uHOZ5O+ Y7vuEiyS6zF5Y9p9Ed0= X-Received: by 10.84.239.23 with SMTP id w23mr22630395plk.73.1496773230153; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hw10447.local ([167.102.188.146]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s17sm67701326pfk.112.2017.06.06.11.20.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Question about 1.7 bugfix releases To: dev@accumulo.apache.org References: <6b71dbd9-4ed9-1368-aeaa-18141bcef4fa@gmail.com> From: Josh Elser Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 14:20:27 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit archived-at: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:20:39 -0000 On 6/6/17 2:13 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Josh Elser wrote: >> On 6/6/17 12:39 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: >>> >>> For example, has anyone done perf comparisons between 1.7 and 1.8.z? >>> >>> When it came time for me to start telling folks that it was "safe" to >>> upgrade to 1.7.z I ran into something like a 40-60% perf degradation >>> on writes compared to 1.6 across the board. A little bit of this was >>> already fixed in 1.8 at the time, but a substantial amount required a >>> non-trivial refactoring because just no one had looked[1]. Even after >>> all of that, I still had to caveat things because I still saw a >>> ~15-30% perf drop on random writes in the presence of lots of columns. >> >> >> At a risk of de-railing otherwise good discussion on releases: do you recall >> if you had accounted for the following, Sean? (notably, the last code >> snippet) >> >> https://accumulo.apache.org/blog/2016/11/02/durability-performance.html > > I know that "set durability to flush and not sync" was one of the > parameters for the comparison, but I don't remember what was done > specifically during the testing back in September, tbh. > > I can probably dig it out if you'd like; I think we were pretty good > at keeping notes. Probably something for a different thread? > Agreed. Just wanted to ask before I forgot again. Saw some relevance in the worry of perf regressions 1.7->1.8 based on the existence of those you saw 1.6->1.7, but def don't want to derail further here. If you have the time and the notes, would be happy to review.