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From: Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:36:38 +0000
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Jenkins notifications to dev list?
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The other option is that if people really want to subscribe to
notifications, I can just add their email to the post-build notification
email list directly. Since I'm willing to grant access to Accumulo
developers already, they can also just add themselves by editing the
existing jobs.

RIght now, I'm thinking: add yourself (or I can add you) to the post-build
notification, or use the RSS, is the best option. No dev@ list, no
notifications@ list. It's just too much trouble.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:28 PM Keith Turner <keith@deenlo.com> wrote:

> Personally I am not in favor of automated things sending stuff to the dev
> list.  I like the dev just being discussion among humans.
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Dylan Hutchison <
> dhutchis@cs.washington.edu
> > wrote:
>
> > On the other hand, sending failed build notifications to the dev list
> > motivates us to not break the tests and make the tests stable.  I'll
> leave
> > it to your decision Chris, unless others have an opinion.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:02 PM Dylan Hutchison <
> > > dhutchis@cs.washington.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Okay, so after some investigation (
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12252), it appears
> that
> > > > > notifications@ is simply configured to block email from non apache
> > > > > addresses.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I have three possible solutions, if the Accumulo devs wish to
> > > receive
> > > > > build notifications from my instance of Jenkins:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. I use my personal ASF creds on Jenkins to send build
> notifications
> > > as
> > > > > myself.
> > > > > 2. The Accumulo project request the configuration of notifications@
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > changed to allow non-apache addresses.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > #2 sounds ideal to me, if possible.  Sending build emails to dev
> would
> > > > drive some people to un-subscribe.  On the other hand, people that
> sign
> > > up
> > > > for notifications@ are asking for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > My reason for being reluctant to pick #2 as my preference was that I
> > don't
> > > know what additional burden that might place on the moderators. Plus,
> > INFRA
> > > (or, at least Gavin, on that ticket and in HipChat when I thanked him
> for
> > > clarifying) seemed pretty satisfied with the existing conventions of
> > being
> > > @
> > > apache.org only. I'd prefer to conform to Foundation-wide conventions
> > when
> > > it comes to infra stuffs, whenever possible. I know how much work it is
> > on
> > > INFRA to constantly ask them for special requests which diverge from
> the
> > > norm, especially when they are managing so much already.
> > >
> > > Breaking conventions within our community like #3 posed would be
> > preferable
> > > to me, rather than breaking Foundation-wide infra conventions. But,
> > you're
> > > right that it could annoy subscribers. If I remember correctly, Commons
> > is
> > > one community which does this, sending build notifications to their dev
> > > list.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Another option is a new email list.  It doesn't even have to be
> > > > ASF-affiliated.  It could be some list you personally create that
> many
> > > > Accumulo devs personally decide to sign up for.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > That's possible. I could set up a list specifically associated with
> that
> > > Jenkins server. It already has an RSS feed, which might be better,
> > though,
> > > if people want to subscribe to builds that way. The main purpose of me
> > > setting it up was to provide direct feedback to this community, though,
> > > rather than force folks to go seek out that feedback. If the RSS feed
> is
> > > sufficient for people, then that would save me some trouble, though...
> > it's
> > > certainly the easiest thing to do (nothing).
> > >
> > > Plus, it is also putting notifications in IRC. So maybe, RSS+IRC is
> more
> > > than enough.
> > >
> > >
> > > > 3. I configure Jenkins to post to the dev list (if possible).
> > > > >
> > > > > My preference in order is #3, then #2, then #1 last.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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