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From Corey Nolet <cjno...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Hadoop
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2016 21:04:07 GMT
This may not be directly related but I've noticed Hadoop packages have been
not uninstalling/updating well the past year or so. The last couple times
I've run fedup, I've had to go back in manually and remove/update a bunch
of the Hadoop packages like Zookeeper and Parquet.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> That first post was intended for the Fedora developer list. Apologies for
> sending to the wrong list.
>
> If anybody is curious, it seems the Fedora community support around Hadoop
> and Big Data is really dying... the packager for Flume and HTrace has
> abandoned their efforts to package for Fedora, and now it looks like the
> Hadoop package maintainer abandoned Hadoop, leaving Accumulo with
> unsatisfied dependencies. This is actually kind of a sad state of affairs,
> because better packaging downstream could really help users, and expose
> more ways to improve the upstream products.
>
> As it stands, I think there is a disconnect between the upstream
> communities and the downstream packagers in the Big Data space which
> includes Accumulo. I would love to see more interest in better packaging
> for downstream users through these existing downstream packager communities
> (Homebrew, Fedora, Debian, EPEL, Ubuntu, etc.), and I would love to see
> more volunteers come from these downstream communities to make improvements
> upstream.
>
> As an upstream community, I believe the responsibility is for us to reach
> down first, rather than wait for them to come to us. I've tried to do that
> within Fedora, with the hope that others would follow for the downstream
> communities they care about. Unfortunately, things haven't turned out how
> I'd have preferred, but I'm still hopeful. If there is anybody interested
> in downstream community packaging, let me know if I can help you get
> started.
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:28 PM Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, wrong list.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So, it would seem at some point, without me noticing (certainly my
> fault,
> >> for not paying attention enough), the Hadoop packages got orphaned
> and/or
> >> retired? in Fedora.
> >>
> >> This is a big problem for me, because the main package I work on is
> >> dependent upon Hadoop.
> >>
> >> What's the state of Hadoop in Fedora these days? Are there packaging
> >> problems? Not enough support from upstream Apache community? Missing
> >> dependencies in Fedora? Not enough time to work on it? No interest from
> >> users?
> >>
> >> Whatever the issue is... I'd like to help wherever I can... I'd like to
> >> keep this stuff going.
> >>
> >
>

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