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From Christopher <ctubb...@fedoraproject.org>
Subject Re: Hadoop
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2016 20:59:47 GMT
That first post was intended for the Fedora developer list. Apologies for
sending to the wrong list.

If anybody is curious, it seems the Fedora community support around Hadoop
and Big Data is really dying... the packager for Flume and HTrace has
abandoned their efforts to package for Fedora, and now it looks like the
Hadoop package maintainer abandoned Hadoop, leaving Accumulo with
unsatisfied dependencies. This is actually kind of a sad state of affairs,
because better packaging downstream could really help users, and expose
more ways to improve the upstream products.

As it stands, I think there is a disconnect between the upstream
communities and the downstream packagers in the Big Data space which
includes Accumulo. I would love to see more interest in better packaging
for downstream users through these existing downstream packager communities
(Homebrew, Fedora, Debian, EPEL, Ubuntu, etc.), and I would love to see
more volunteers come from these downstream communities to make improvements
upstream.

As an upstream community, I believe the responsibility is for us to reach
down first, rather than wait for them to come to us. I've tried to do that
within Fedora, with the hope that others would follow for the downstream
communities they care about. Unfortunately, things haven't turned out how
I'd have preferred, but I'm still hopeful. If there is anybody interested
in downstream community packaging, let me know if I can help you get
started.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:28 PM Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> Sorry, wrong list.
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>
>> So, it would seem at some point, without me noticing (certainly my fault,
>> for not paying attention enough), the Hadoop packages got orphaned and/or
>> retired? in Fedora.
>>
>> This is a big problem for me, because the main package I work on is
>> dependent upon Hadoop.
>>
>> What's the state of Hadoop in Fedora these days? Are there packaging
>> problems? Not enough support from upstream Apache community? Missing
>> dependencies in Fedora? Not enough time to work on it? No interest from
>> users?
>>
>> Whatever the issue is... I'd like to help wherever I can... I'd like to
>> keep this stuff going.
>>
>

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