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From Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Hadoop
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2016 21:21:26 GMT
Well, I wouldn't be surprised with some issues across a fedup (which is a
way to do an upgrade between Fedora versions), but it should have been
stable with normal/routine yum/dnf upgrades.

Were you using the Fedora-provided packages, or the BigTop ones? Or another
set?

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:04 PM Corey Nolet <cjnolet@gmail.com> wrote:

> This may not be directly related but I've noticed Hadoop packages have been
> not uninstalling/updating well the past year or so. The last couple times
> I've run fedup, I've had to go back in manually and remove/update a bunch
> of the Hadoop packages like Zookeeper and Parquet.
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>
> > That first post was intended for the Fedora developer list. Apologies for
> > sending to the wrong list.
> >
> > If anybody is curious, it seems the Fedora community support around
> Hadoop
> > and Big Data is really dying... the packager for Flume and HTrace has
> > abandoned their efforts to package for Fedora, and now it looks like the
> > Hadoop package maintainer abandoned Hadoop, leaving Accumulo with
> > unsatisfied dependencies. This is actually kind of a sad state of
> affairs,
> > because better packaging downstream could really help users, and expose
> > more ways to improve the upstream products.
> >
> > As it stands, I think there is a disconnect between the upstream
> > communities and the downstream packagers in the Big Data space which
> > includes Accumulo. I would love to see more interest in better packaging
> > for downstream users through these existing downstream packager
> communities
> > (Homebrew, Fedora, Debian, EPEL, Ubuntu, etc.), and I would love to see
> > more volunteers come from these downstream communities to make
> improvements
> > upstream.
> >
> > As an upstream community, I believe the responsibility is for us to reach
> > down first, rather than wait for them to come to us. I've tried to do
> that
> > within Fedora, with the hope that others would follow for the downstream
> > communities they care about. Unfortunately, things haven't turned out how
> > I'd have preferred, but I'm still hopeful. If there is anybody interested
> > in downstream community packaging, let me know if I can help you get
> > started.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:28 PM Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, wrong list.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM Christopher <ctubbsii@fedoraproject.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> So, it would seem at some point, without me noticing (certainly my
> > fault,
> > >> for not paying attention enough), the Hadoop packages got orphaned
> > and/or
> > >> retired? in Fedora.
> > >>
> > >> This is a big problem for me, because the main package I work on is
> > >> dependent upon Hadoop.
> > >>
> > >> What's the state of Hadoop in Fedora these days? Are there packaging
> > >> problems? Not enough support from upstream Apache community? Missing
> > >> dependencies in Fedora? Not enough time to work on it? No interest
> from
> > >> users?
> > >>
> > >> Whatever the issue is... I'd like to help wherever I can... I'd like
> to
> > >> keep this stuff going.
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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