Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1436187EC for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 18:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10691 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2015 18:54:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 10652 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2015 18:54:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@accumulo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 10641 invoked by uid 99); 12 May 2015 18:54:24 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 May 2015 18:54:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id C94EF1A2A5A for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 18:54:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.605 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.605 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.625, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t0_UtrQAj8l6 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 18:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id DD0DB474D0 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 18:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by widdi4 with SMTP id di4so167056148wid.0 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TKqZ4pG1LVHh6MYiNIFZnCgwc8ad5jo4TyiiRbfcP1s=; b=VWsrP9JIjOiDE4gtu0BsJRo5qdGb5UkllgseFvTOiGgQpD/eaKpntLU//Sijc9wHJa cH/NAEWrpGrtWtrml+6DYjVUBfNVMO2OEiFwJsQ8CUjWngqNlbmoUg0s9BTMgx0uoGC2 e3nWcpMrhWO4uJBdhlnPea0QrAYmpQgmM2Uw5rAqfj7GtUB6gaGfVVFhIqDbXTZ0btH5 NKlnGdhxt+pluJBi7zCSPKFcT7M3r86qIibz0g9+0t2mxT2BJKWEnXKjeteWFx5p7pwC Ou1emLUTCykDcc1Ae9OclVxkahd2IEIlqTuE9WPVtbn1OMikEG22Jev/a7MQH+qDp8NQ lyDg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkSBj30kXjCzEtBJsUggiB3sEU0R10zEDvkMR52GQin/Avz/77FyeM5+Fakp5qPfBESEK4f X-Received: by 10.194.204.230 with SMTP id lb6mr32404381wjc.63.1431456857046; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.27.51.194 with HTTP; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:53:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Sean Busbey Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 13:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 1.5 To: "dev@accumulo apache. org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b8738a27a000b0515e705e8 --047d7b8738a27a000b0515e705e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 to making sure we have a 1.5.3 before stop dev I'd like to make sure we get through some testing of 1.5 -> 1.7 upgrade testing before declaring dev over, just to give people more assurance that they can upgrade off of the version. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Christopher wrote: > How do we want to EOL 1.5? > > Personally, I was thinking (soon after 1.7.0 is released): > * Release and tag 1.5.3 > * Remove 1.5 branch to focus active development on newer versions > * Be willing to branch from the 1.5.3 tag to rapidly release a 1.5.4 > in response to critical bugs > > My biggest concerns are: > 1) We turn exhausted people off by doing burdensome release testing, > which delays bugfixes in 1.5, and > 2) We get into a situation where 1.5.3 has some bugs that we never > fix, which sends a confusing message to stick with 1.5.2. > > There's also the concern that there's a fair amount of work that was > put into 1.5.3, and I'd hate to have those contributions not be > available to users of 1.5. > > I figure that so long as we're willing to fix critical bugs, we can > formally cease active development (EOL), without going so far as to > say that 1.5 users are completely screwed if a critical bug is > identified. > > What I'm describing isn't really an EOL date, so much as an EOL period > which begins when we cease active development on 1.5, and ends > organically at some arbitrary point in the future when people stop > reporting critical bugs (or we reach a point where maintaining it is > too costly... a sort of "EOL-2"). > > Another way to look at what I'm suggesting is switch from a "sustained > development" model to a "branch to fix and release" model, where > patch/bugfix releases are more narrowly scoped and can occur more > rapidly, on demand. > > Thoughts? Alternatives? Variations? Objections? > > -- > Christopher L Tubbs II > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii > -- Sean --047d7b8738a27a000b0515e705e8--