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From Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: More jenkins results
Date Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:29:44 GMT
Looks like it works. Got two notifications this morning.

Yay! Thanks Josh.

-- 
Sean
On Mar 20, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Elser" <josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, test email from jenkins as "me" went through. Just kicked off ITs for
> 1.6 and master which should go to notifications.
>
> This has blown up to be so much more painful than necessary. Sheesh.
>
> Josh Elser wrote:
>
>> Weird, you did get my message? I thought it had bounced. Odd.
>>
>> I'll see what happens if I try to send with my apache.org.
>>
>> Christopher wrote:
>>
>>> So, I don't think you'd have to use your ASF password unless you
>>> wanted to send using the ASF SMTP. That may not be necessary, unless
>>> the mailing lists check the origin to prevent spam, or something
>>> (would probably need to check with INFRA for info on that). The "From"
>>> line is not actually part of the SMTP protocol itself, so you should
>>> be able to just tell Jenkins to use anything. If there is a check in
>>> place, I *think* all you'd really need to do is subscribe to the list
>>> with the email address you wish to use, and ensure that the MX record
>>> is properly set up for your domain.
>>>
>>> Best thing to do is probably to create an INFRA ticket explaining what
>>> you're trying to do (with the from address you want to use and host
>>> you are trying to send from) and see if they can just whitelist the
>>> address.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I did see your test message from elserj@apache.org to the
>>> notifcations list...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Josh Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not want to configure my server to do that, as it would require
>>>> me to
>>>> share my ASF password there. I haven't spent enough time to convince
>>>> myself
>>>> that it's secure enough to do that.
>>>>
>>>> If you can find why exactly it isn't working (I can't even mail from
>>>> elserj@apache.org), I'm all ears. I've just spent too much time
>>>> already (in
>>>> addition to wasting some of Billie's) to continue trying to figure
>>>> out why.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a fan of putting it on the dev@ list. There must be a way to
>>>>> add the email to a whitelist. Or... can you configure Jenkins to just
>>>>> send as your from address as elserj-builds@apache.org?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Josh Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, posts to notifications@ requires an apache.org email addr. I've
>>>>>> lost
>>>>>> interest in trying to make it work any further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are people interested in getting the notifications to this list
>>>>>> (dev@a.a.o)
>>>>>> instead of notifications@? I figure most people probably use
>>>>>> filters of
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> form to move things around anyways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LMK, I won't set this up without a general ack from everyone since
it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> increase the traffic here dramatically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Update on this: I had worked with Billie and little bit to try
to get
>>>>>>> ezmlm to accept message from my server (as it's not subscribed
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> normal means).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We haven't figured it out yet, but we're both a bit swamped this
>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>> Hopefully we'll get it figured out eventually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, 1.6 ITs were blue last night and we only have 7 test
>>>>>>> failures
>>>>>>> on master!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (big ty to Christopher and Eric as they helped those numbers)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frak.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Realized that I need to make sure ezmlm accepts the emails
I send
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> my server...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ugh, brain didn't catch up before<enter> was hit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Send me a ping if you'd like to have control to configure
the
>>>>>>>>> Accumulo
>>>>>>>>> jobs and I can add an account for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christopher, I'll send you an email shortly with your
credentials
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> you brought up this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, I figured out how to do jenkins roles so that
I can limit
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>> down to a specific set of jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll change my nightly 1.6 and master branch IT jobs
to send to
>>>>>>>>>> notifications@ and we can go from there. I won't
duplicate
>>>>>>>>>> normal UT
>>>>>>>>>> jobs from apache jenkins.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Drob wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it goes to notifications@ that is inherently
a noisy list
>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> worried about Josh taking a week off and a nightly
build
>>>>>>>>>>> failing and
>>>>>>>>>>> sending an email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher, would a set of keys held in escrow
cover your
>>>>>>>>>>> concerns?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh, thanks for doing this and keeping it running
on your own
>>>>>>>>>>> dime.
>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>> mensch!
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015 2:43 PM, "Christopher"<ctubbsii@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I'm not suggesting to impose external control.
I just think
>>>>>>>>>>>> it'd be
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice to know that, if the worst were to happen,
and the service
>>>>>>>>>>>> started behaving badly while you were on
vacation, we'd have
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> recourse to control the automated notices
to the email lists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ If you do get hit by a truck, I *will*
call you out on it ;) ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I wasn't clear the first time, anyone
can view the results
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still not sure why you feel the need
to impose external
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> system that I'm paying for and offering
to provide as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. Unless I get hit by a truck,
it's not like I won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> responsive --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I do rescind on that promise,
you are more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> call me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on it. Being unresponsive is one
criticism that I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> given WRT Accumulo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, the real question here is are people
going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and doing anything with them?
If they're just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/null,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's not worth it to me and I'll just
do triage/fixing as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks fine in Chrome to me (but my
Chrome is using my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shared NSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate store for my system).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't think of anything immediately
to configure... just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speculating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it might add utility when needed.
At the very least, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than one person with the ability
to turn off / modify the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the mailing list, if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being able to view the results without
configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be added value on its own,
though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM,
Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this will help too. Last night's
builds:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-1.6-
>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration-Tests/325/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-
>>>>>>>>>>>> Master-Integration-Tests/272/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  If you use Chrome, I don't think they accept
StartCom SSL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (so you'll get the crazy-scary
red warning page), but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by default in FF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presently, you can see the
full workspace for the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have to look into Jenkins permissions,
but what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would need to configure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might only be valuable
if we could log on to it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and/or configure
the jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015
at 1:24 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who don't
know, I run a Jenkins instance on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VPS I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running ITs for 1.6
and master nightly for some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really nice to get these results. It
has just enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through them reliably (some of the really
heavy-handed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fail on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but personally it
feels like a good baseline for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensuring the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runnable by anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If others feel like
they might get value from it, I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to the notifications@accumulo.apache.org
list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts/Opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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