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From Billie Rinaldi <billie.rina...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: More jenkins results
Date Fri, 20 Mar 2015 20:51:29 GMT
I've added the address to the allow list for notifications.  There appears
to be some secondary check that prevents the mail from getting through
since it's not from apache.org.  I don't know if there is another whitelist
beyond the allow list that moderators can control.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org> wrote:

> So, I don't think you'd have to use your ASF password unless you
> wanted to send using the ASF SMTP. That may not be necessary, unless
> the mailing lists check the origin to prevent spam, or something
> (would probably need to check with INFRA for info on that). The "From"
> line is not actually part of the SMTP protocol itself, so you should
> be able to just tell Jenkins to use anything. If there is a check in
> place, I *think* all you'd really need to do is subscribe to the list
> with the email address you wish to use, and ensure that the MX record
> is properly set up for your domain.
>
> Best thing to do is probably to create an INFRA ticket explaining what
> you're trying to do (with the from address you want to use and host
> you are trying to send from) and see if they can just whitelist the
> address.
>
> FWIW, I did see your test message from elserj@apache.org to the
> notifcations list...
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I do not want to configure my server to do that, as it would require me
> to
> > share my ASF password there. I haven't spent enough time to convince
> myself
> > that it's secure enough to do that.
> >
> > If you can find why exactly it isn't working (I can't even mail from
> > elserj@apache.org), I'm all ears. I've just spent too much time already
> (in
> > addition to wasting some of Billie's) to continue trying to figure out
> why.
> >
> >
> > Christopher wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not a fan of putting it on the dev@ list. There must be a way to
> >> add the email to a whitelist. Or... can you configure Jenkins to just
> >> send as your from address as elserj-builds@apache.org?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Christopher L Tubbs II
> >> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Josh Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So, posts to notifications@ requires an apache.org email addr. I've
> lost
> >>> interest in trying to make it work any further.
> >>>
> >>> Are people interested in getting the notifications to this list
> >>> (dev@a.a.o)
> >>> instead of notifications@? I figure most people probably use filters
> of
> >>> some
> >>> form to move things around anyways.
> >>>
> >>> LMK, I won't set this up without a general ack from everyone since it
> >>> would
> >>> increase the traffic here dramatically.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh Elser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Update on this: I had worked with Billie and little bit to try to get
> >>>> ezmlm to accept message from my server (as it's not subscribed through
> >>>> normal means).
> >>>>
> >>>> We haven't figured it out yet, but we're both a bit swamped this week.
> >>>> Hopefully we'll get it figured out eventually.
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, 1.6 ITs were blue last night and we only have 7 test
> failures
> >>>> on master!
> >>>>
> >>>> (big ty to Christopher and Eric as they helped those numbers)
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Elser wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frak.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Realized that I need to make sure ezmlm accepts the emails I send
> from
> >>>>> my server...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ugh, brain didn't catch up before<enter>  was hit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Send me a ping if you'd like to have control to configure the
> Accumulo
> >>>>>> jobs and I can add an account for you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Christopher, I'll send you an email shortly with your credentials
> >>>>>> since
> >>>>>> you brought up this discussion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ok, I figured out how to do jenkins roles so that I can
limit
> things
> >>>>>>> down to a specific set of jobs.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll change my nightly 1.6 and master branch IT jobs to
send to
> >>>>>>> notifications@ and we can go from there. I won't duplicate
normal
> UT
> >>>>>>> jobs from apache jenkins.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mike Drob wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If it goes to notifications@ that is inherently a noisy
list and
> I'm
> >>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>> worried about Josh taking a week off and a nightly build
failing
> and
> >>>>>>>> sending an email.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Christopher, would a set of keys held in escrow cover
your
> concerns?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Josh, thanks for doing this and keeping it running on
your own
> dime.
> >>>>>>>> A
> >>>>>>>> real
> >>>>>>>> mensch!
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015 2:43 PM, "Christopher"<ctubbsii@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm not suggesting to impose external control. I
just think it'd
> be
> >>>>>>>>> nice to know that, if the worst were to happen,
and the service
> >>>>>>>>> started behaving badly while you were on vacation,
we'd have some
> >>>>>>>>> recourse to control the automated notices to the
email lists.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [ If you do get hit by a truck, I *will* call you
out on it ;) ]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
> >>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Josh Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If I wasn't clear the first time, anyone can
view the results
> >>>>>>>>>> right
> >>>>>>>>>> now.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm still not sure why you feel the need to
impose external
> >>>>>>>>>> control
> >>>>>>>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> system that I'm paying for and offering to provide
as a service
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> project. Unless I get hit by a truck, it's not
like I won't be
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> responsive --
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> and if I do rescind on that promise, you are
more than welcome
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> call me
> >>>>>>>>>> out on it. Being unresponsive is one criticism
that I don't
> think
> >>>>>>>>>> I've
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> given WRT Accumulo.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> IMO, the real question here is are people going
to be looking at
> >>>>>>>>>> these
> >>>>>>>>>> results and doing anything with them? If they're
just going to
> >>>>>>>>>> /dev/null,
> >>>>>>>>>> it's not worth it to me and I'll just do triage/fixing
as I find
> >>>>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks fine in Chrome to me (but my Chrome
is using my shared
> NSS
> >>>>>>>>>>> certificate store for my system).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't think of anything immediately to
configure... just
> >>>>>>>>>>> speculating
> >>>>>>>>>>> that it might add utility when needed. At
the very least, I
> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>> more than one person with the ability to
turn off / modify the
> >>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>> to the mailing list, if necessary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Being able to view the results without configuration
> permissions
> >>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> still be added value on its own, though.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Josh Elser<
> josh.elser@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this will help too. Last night's
builds:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-1.6-Integration-Tests/325/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-Master-Integration-Tests/272/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you use Chrome, I don't think they
accept StartCom SSL
> certs
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (so you'll get the crazy-scary red warning
page), but it
> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
> >>>>>>>>>>>> by default in FF.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Presently, you can see the full
workspace for the last job
> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> run.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have to look into Jenkins permissions,
but what exactly
> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you would need to configure?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might only be valuable
if we could log on to it to view
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and/or configure the
jobs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:24
PM, Josh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who don't know,
I run a Jenkins instance on a
> VPS I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running ITs for 1.6 and
master nightly for some time now
> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really nice to get these
results. It has just enough
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through them reliably (some
of the really heavy-handed
> tests
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fail on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it),
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but personally it feels
like a good baseline for ensuring
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runnable by anyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If others feel like they
might get value from it, I can set
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> emails
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to the notifications@accumulo.apache.org
list
> instead of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts/Opinions?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >
>

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