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From Josh Elser <josh.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: More jenkins results
Date Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:36:44 GMT
Ok, test email from jenkins as "me" went through. Just kicked off ITs 
for 1.6 and master which should go to notifications.

This has blown up to be so much more painful than necessary. Sheesh.

Josh Elser wrote:
> Weird, you did get my message? I thought it had bounced. Odd.
>
> I'll see what happens if I try to send with my apache.org.
>
> Christopher wrote:
>> So, I don't think you'd have to use your ASF password unless you
>> wanted to send using the ASF SMTP. That may not be necessary, unless
>> the mailing lists check the origin to prevent spam, or something
>> (would probably need to check with INFRA for info on that). The "From"
>> line is not actually part of the SMTP protocol itself, so you should
>> be able to just tell Jenkins to use anything. If there is a check in
>> place, I *think* all you'd really need to do is subscribe to the list
>> with the email address you wish to use, and ensure that the MX record
>> is properly set up for your domain.
>>
>> Best thing to do is probably to create an INFRA ticket explaining what
>> you're trying to do (with the from address you want to use and host
>> you are trying to send from) and see if they can just whitelist the
>> address.
>>
>> FWIW, I did see your test message from elserj@apache.org to the
>> notifcations list...
>>
>> --
>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Josh Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I do not want to configure my server to do that, as it would require
>>> me to
>>> share my ASF password there. I haven't spent enough time to convince
>>> myself
>>> that it's secure enough to do that.
>>>
>>> If you can find why exactly it isn't working (I can't even mail from
>>> elserj@apache.org), I'm all ears. I've just spent too much time
>>> already (in
>>> addition to wasting some of Billie's) to continue trying to figure
>>> out why.
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>> I'm not a fan of putting it on the dev@ list. There must be a way to
>>>> add the email to a whitelist. Or... can you configure Jenkins to just
>>>> send as your from address as elserj-builds@apache.org?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Josh Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> So, posts to notifications@ requires an apache.org email addr. I've
>>>>> lost
>>>>> interest in trying to make it work any further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are people interested in getting the notifications to this list
>>>>> (dev@a.a.o)
>>>>> instead of notifications@? I figure most people probably use
>>>>> filters of
>>>>> some
>>>>> form to move things around anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>> LMK, I won't set this up without a general ack from everyone since it
>>>>> would
>>>>> increase the traffic here dramatically.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>> Update on this: I had worked with Billie and little bit to try to
get
>>>>>> ezmlm to accept message from my server (as it's not subscribed
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> normal means).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We haven't figured it out yet, but we're both a bit swamped this
>>>>>> week.
>>>>>> Hopefully we'll get it figured out eventually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, 1.6 ITs were blue last night and we only have 7 test
>>>>>> failures
>>>>>> on master!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (big ty to Christopher and Eric as they helped those numbers)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>> Frak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Realized that I need to make sure ezmlm accepts the emails I
send
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> my server...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ugh, brain didn't catch up before<enter> was hit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send me a ping if you'd like to have control to configure
the
>>>>>>>> Accumulo
>>>>>>>> jobs and I can add an account for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christopher, I'll send you an email shortly with your credentials
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> you brought up this discussion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ok, I figured out how to do jenkins roles so that I can
limit
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> down to a specific set of jobs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll change my nightly 1.6 and master branch IT jobs
to send to
>>>>>>>>> notifications@ and we can go from there. I won't duplicate
>>>>>>>>> normal UT
>>>>>>>>> jobs from apache jenkins.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike Drob wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If it goes to notifications@ that is inherently a
noisy list
>>>>>>>>>> and I'm
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> worried about Josh taking a week off and a nightly
build
>>>>>>>>>> failing and
>>>>>>>>>> sending an email.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christopher, would a set of keys held in escrow cover
your
>>>>>>>>>> concerns?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh, thanks for doing this and keeping it running
on your own
>>>>>>>>>> dime.
>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>> mensch!
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015 2:43 PM, "Christopher"<ctubbsii@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not suggesting to impose external control.
I just think
>>>>>>>>>>> it'd be
>>>>>>>>>>> nice to know that, if the worst were to happen,
and the service
>>>>>>>>>>> started behaving badly while you were on vacation,
we'd have
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> recourse to control the automated notices to
the email lists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [ If you do get hit by a truck, I *will* call
you out on it ;) ]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I wasn't clear the first time, anyone
can view the results
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still not sure why you feel the need
to impose external
>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> system that I'm paying for and offering to
provide as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> service to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> project. Unless I get hit by a truck, it's
not like I won't be
>>>>>>>>>>> responsive --
>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I do rescind on that promise, you
are more than
>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome to
>>>>>>>>>>>> call me
>>>>>>>>>>>> out on it. Being unresponsive is one criticism
that I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> given WRT Accumulo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, the real question here is are people
going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at
>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>> results and doing anything with them? If
they're just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/null,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's not worth it to me and I'll just do
triage/fixing as I
>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks fine in Chrome to me (but my Chrome
is using my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shared NSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate store for my system).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't think of anything immediately
to configure... just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speculating
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it might add utility when needed.
At the very least, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than one person with the ability
to turn off / modify the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the mailing list, if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being able to view the results without
configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>> permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be added value on its own, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this will help too. Last night's
builds:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-1.6-Integration-Tests/325/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-Master-Integration-Tests/272/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you use Chrome, I don't think
they accept StartCom SSL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (so you'll get the crazy-scary red
warning page), but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by default in FF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presently, you can see the full
workspace for the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have to look into Jenkins
permissions, but what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would need to configure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might only be valuable
if we could log on to it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and/or configure
the jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:24
PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who don't know,
I run a Jenkins instance on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VPS I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running ITs for 1.6 and
master nightly for some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really nice to get these
results. It has just enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through them reliably
(some of the really heavy-handed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fail on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but personally it feels
like a good baseline for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensuring the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runnable by anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If others feel like they
might get value from it, I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>> emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to the notifications@accumulo.apache.org
list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts/Opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>

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