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From Josh Elser <>
Subject Re: More jenkins results
Date Fri, 20 Mar 2015 21:04:31 GMT
Weird, you did get my message? I thought it had bounced. Odd.

I'll see what happens if I try to send with my

Christopher wrote:
> So, I don't think you'd have to use your ASF password unless you
> wanted to send using the ASF SMTP. That may not be necessary, unless
> the mailing lists check the origin to prevent spam, or something
> (would probably need to check with INFRA for info on that). The "From"
> line is not actually part of the SMTP protocol itself, so you should
> be able to just tell Jenkins to use anything. If there is a check in
> place, I *think* all you'd really need to do is subscribe to the list
> with the email address you wish to use, and ensure that the MX record
> is properly set up for your domain.
> Best thing to do is probably to create an INFRA ticket explaining what
> you're trying to do (with the from address you want to use and host
> you are trying to send from) and see if they can just whitelist the
> address.
> FWIW, I did see your test message from to the
> notifcations list...
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Josh Elser<>  wrote:
>> I do not want to configure my server to do that, as it would require me to
>> share my ASF password there. I haven't spent enough time to convince myself
>> that it's secure enough to do that.
>> If you can find why exactly it isn't working (I can't even mail from
>>, I'm all ears. I've just spent too much time already (in
>> addition to wasting some of Billie's) to continue trying to figure out why.
>> Christopher wrote:
>>> I'm not a fan of putting it on the dev@ list. There must be a way to
>>> add the email to a whitelist. Or... can you configure Jenkins to just
>>> send as your from address as
>>> --
>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Josh Elser<>   wrote:
>>>> So, posts to notifications@ requires an email addr. I've lost
>>>> interest in trying to make it work any further.
>>>> Are people interested in getting the notifications to this list
>>>> (dev@a.a.o)
>>>> instead of notifications@? I figure most people probably use filters of
>>>> some
>>>> form to move things around anyways.
>>>> LMK, I won't set this up without a general ack from everyone since it
>>>> would
>>>> increase the traffic here dramatically.
>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>> Update on this: I had worked with Billie and little bit to try to get
>>>>> ezmlm to accept message from my server (as it's not subscribed through
>>>>> normal means).
>>>>> We haven't figured it out yet, but we're both a bit swamped this week.
>>>>> Hopefully we'll get it figured out eventually.
>>>>> Meanwhile, 1.6 ITs were blue last night and we only have 7 test failures
>>>>> on master!
>>>>> (big ty to Christopher and Eric as they helped those numbers)
>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>> Frak.
>>>>>> Realized that I need to make sure ezmlm accepts the emails I send
>>>>>> my server...
>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>> Ugh, brain didn't catch up before<enter>   was hit.
>>>>>>> Send me a ping if you'd like to have control to configure the
>>>>>>> jobs and I can add an account for you.
>>>>>>> Christopher, I'll send you an email shortly with your credentials
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> you brought up this discussion.
>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ok, I figured out how to do jenkins roles so that I can limit
>>>>>>>> down to a specific set of jobs.
>>>>>>>> I'll change my nightly 1.6 and master branch IT jobs to send
>>>>>>>> notifications@ and we can go from there. I won't duplicate
normal UT
>>>>>>>> jobs from apache jenkins.
>>>>>>>> Mike Drob wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If it goes to notifications@ that is inherently a noisy
list and I'm
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> worried about Josh taking a week off and a nightly build
failing and
>>>>>>>>> sending an email.
>>>>>>>>> Christopher, would a set of keys held in escrow cover
your concerns?
>>>>>>>>> Josh, thanks for doing this and keeping it running on
your own dime.
>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> mensch!
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015 2:43 PM, "Christopher"<>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not suggesting to impose external control. I
just think it'd be
>>>>>>>>>> nice to know that, if the worst were to happen, and
the service
>>>>>>>>>> started behaving badly while you were on vacation,
we'd have some
>>>>>>>>>> recourse to control the automated notices to the
email lists.
>>>>>>>>>> [ If you do get hit by a truck, I *will* call you
out on it ;) ]
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Josh Elser<>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> If I wasn't clear the first time, anyone can
view the results
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still not sure why you feel the need to impose
>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> system that I'm paying for and offering to provide
as a service to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> project. Unless I get hit by a truck, it's not
like I won't be
>>>>>>>>>> responsive --
>>>>>>>>>>> and if I do rescind on that promise, you are
more than welcome to
>>>>>>>>>>> call me
>>>>>>>>>>> out on it. Being unresponsive is one criticism
that I don't think
>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> given WRT Accumulo.
>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, the real question here is are people going
to be looking at
>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> results and doing anything with them? If they're
just going to
>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/null,
>>>>>>>>>>> it's not worth it to me and I'll just do triage/fixing
as I find
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks fine in Chrome to me (but my Chrome
is using my shared NSS
>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate store for my system).
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't think of anything immediately to
configure... just
>>>>>>>>>>>> speculating
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it might add utility when needed. At
the very least, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> more than one person with the ability to
turn off / modify the
>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the mailing list, if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Being able to view the results without configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> still be added value on its own, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Josh Elser<>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this will help too. Last night's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you use Chrome, I don't think they
accept StartCom SSL certs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (so you'll get the crazy-scary red warning
page), but it should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by default in FF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presently, you can see the full workspace
for the last job that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have to look into Jenkins permissions,
but what exactly do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would need to configure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might only be valuable if
we could log on to it to view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and/or configure the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:24
PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who don't know,
I run a Jenkins instance on a VPS I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running ITs for 1.6 and master
nightly for some time now and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really nice to get these
results. It has just enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through them reliably (some
of the really heavy-handed tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fail on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but personally it feels like
a good baseline for ensuring the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runnable by anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If others feel like they
might get value from it, I can set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to the
list instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts/Opinions?

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