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From Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Remove hadoop1 support
Date Sat, 05 Apr 2014 00:33:40 GMT
Yes. It would mean updating our README and adding something to the Release
Notes.

In addition to the "we don't recommend it" text, a warning that we plan to
remove it in the next version would also be good.

-Sean


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:

> Everyone else correct me if I'm mistaken, but I assume "deprecate Hadoop 1
> for 1.6.0" would primarily be an advertising/documentation change. Let
> people know that it works, but it's not recommended that you use it".
>
>
> On 4/4/14, 8:23 PM, Christopher wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what it means to "deprecate" support in 1.6.0. Changing a
>> minimum dependency isn't something you can really "deprecate" in the
>> traditional sense of code deprecation. Perhaps this would mean just
>> annotating in the 1.6.x release notes that this will be the last
>> version supporting Hadoop 1, and that we encourage users to consider
>> upgrading?
>>
>> However, I am in favor of dropping hadoop1 support (making hadoop
>> 2.0.0, even 2.2.0 the minimum supported dependency) in the next
>> version after the 1.6.x series (presently named 1.7.0), so long as we
>> continue to support Hadoop 1 in 1.6.x releases.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Joey Echeverria <joey@clouderagovt.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to deprecating hadoop1 support in 1.6.0
>>> +1 to dropping hadoop1 support in 1.7.0 (or similar release)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joey Echeverria
>>> Chief Architect
>>> Cloudera Government Solutions
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 ditto on what's been said
>>>>
>>>> Not sure on how "aggressive" it would be to call hadoop1 deprecated for
>>>> 1.6.0, but I wouldn't mind seeing that happen. Can certainly poll the
>>>> user
>>>> list for input. We've already "encouraged" hadoop2 by switching the
>>>> build
>>>> profiles for 1.6, perhaps it's not unreasonable to call it deprecated
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/4/14, 2:20 PM, Ravi Mutyala wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for dropping support for hadoop1 in future versions. +1 to call it
>>>>> deprecated for Hadoop 1. It might be to good option to get info from
>>>>> user
>>>>> list if anyone is going to use 1.6 on Hadoop1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Drob <madrob@cloudera.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-10690
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deprecated in 0.98, dropped in 1.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Sean Busbey <busbey@cloudera.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Mike, as of which version is HBase dropping?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wouldn't want to do this in 1.6.x. Presumably that would mean
if we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it in the next version, we'd still be supporting Hadoop 1 until
both
>>>>>>> 1.5
>>>>>>> and 1.6 have been EOLd?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Mike Drob <madrob@cloudera.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  HBase has started to drop hadoop 1 support already.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, John Vines <vines@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  This is something that crossed my mind recently. Hadoop
2 is
>>>>>>>>> solidly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> forward and, as someone who does not actively follow
the hadoop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hadoop 1 is slowing down. Adoption for hadoop2 is on
the rise and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm starting to wonder whether it's worth the code complexity
to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> both versions, particularly attempting to harness new
features.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the communities thought on this, maybe for 1.7
or maybe for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> releases?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>


-- 
Sean

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