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From Bill Havanki <bhava...@clouderagovt.com>
Subject Re: Accumulo site Bootstrapped
Date Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:16:39 GMT
No worries. I like the bigger font as well, my vision is bad enough as it
is.


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oops -- sorry, I was making edits as I went. Didn't think about where I
> put them all the time :D
>
> Body at 16px def looked nicer to me, I'm sure sidebar at 14 is fine.
>
>
> On 4/11/14, 9:42 AM, Bill Havanki wrote:
>
>> Awesome, thanks for the updates. They are live on my temporary site.
>>
>> I set the font size in the sidebar back to 14px, since it looked too big
>> to
>> me now that the sidebar is skinnier. The body is still 16px. See if you
>> like it, and if not I'll happily make it 16px again.
>>
>> I also put your CSS changes (font-size 16px, removing nowrap on code
>> blocks) into accumulo.css and restored bootstrap.css and bootstrap.min.css
>> to their untouched state. That way we can easily plop in updated bootstrap
>> versions later without the need to hand-edit them.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Bill,
>>>
>>> I just pushed some changes. I mostly changed things to help the flow of
>>> the page.
>>>
>>> - Shrink sidebar and "download" button, center justifying too.
>>> - Reworked some header tag (h1->h2, h3->h2, etc)
>>> - Reduced width of copyright to be slightly less prone to widows
>>> - Fixed grammar/capitalization issues
>>> - Fixed broken links
>>>
>>> The biggest part is that the sidebar stood out way too far and looked
>>> goofy with the huge download "button". A few other things are a little
>>> weird looking to me still, but I think it's an improvement over what we
>>> currently have! Would love to see this pushed in concert with 1.6.0.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/10/14, 4:37 PM, Bill Havanki wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think the new site is just about ready. Latest updates:
>>>>
>>>> - Replaced social network icons with approved graphics from the sites
>>>> themselves. (Excellent catch Josh.)
>>>> - Switched to better external link icons, moved icons to left of link
>>>> text.
>>>> - Added IRC channel link to sidebar.
>>>> - Added bylaws and governance pages to nav menu.
>>>> - Updated look and feel for several pages, including downloads,
>>>> screenshots, and mailing lists.
>>>> - Added link to Accumulo Summit site to sidebar.
>>>> - Merged in changes made to production site since this version was
>>>> branched, so content is current.
>>>>
>>>> The only significant piece left is improving the features page, which
>>>> Josh
>>>> indicated he might like to try. I can take a stab at it otherwise. It's
>>>> fun.
>>>>
>>>> How would we like to handle the transition to this site? Is a vote a
>>>> good
>>>> idea? I would propose lazy approval with a three-day period, falling
>>>> back
>>>> to consensus in case of an irreconcilable veto. The vote can be pinned
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> specific SVN repo version.
>>>>
>>>> As always, thanks for your continued input. If I've missed anyone's
>>>> suggestions, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Bill H
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Bill Havanki <bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks David!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Re social icons: This post is interesting (google "social icons
>>>>> trademark"):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://angiemakes.com/improper-use-social-media-icons/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll redo the icons according to the branding guidelines for the
>>>>> respective sites. Good catch Josh!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:05 PM, David Medinets <
>>>>> david.medinets@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Very Nice, Bill.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Bill Havanki <
>>>>>> bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The nav menus now expand on hover. It was surprisingly easy. You may
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  need
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  to force-reload to get it to start working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gotta hope that using the social icons is OK, but we should check
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  sure. The icons are not in fact pulled from those source sites, but
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> part of the GLYPHICONS set (glyphicons.com).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh - or anyone - holler when you have patched content committed,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  update with it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Also, inclusion of the twitter/linkedin/github images introduces
>>>>>>> us to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> trademark concerns that should be considered. Thankfully, I believe
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  read
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  into twitter's and github's before and there wasn't anything "scary"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://about.twitter.com/press/brand-assets
>>>>>>>> http://press.linkedin.com/Media-Resources?SubjectID=644
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/logos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/9/14, 12:58 PM, Bill Havanki wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Latest updates available, based on all your feedback:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~bhavanki/accumulo-bootstrapped/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The nav bar is now fixed to the top of the page despite
>>>>>>>>> scrolling.
>>>>>>>>> - There is a sidebar! The logo is there, plus some other stuff.
>>>>>>>>> - External links in the nav menu have a little icon now. Just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  noticed I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> them to the right, not left. My bad. Easy to switch 'em.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The features page is still not all that great. I agree with Josh it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  needs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  something, maybe conversion to tables. I did experiment with
>>>>>>>> changing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  whole page content to a set of tabs, which looks keen but makes the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  markup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  more complex, and less Markdown, so there's a tension there. I think
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> should just start playing with it. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    I solicited some ideas from a colleague, and he recommended
>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  putting the Accumulo logo in the menu, or maybe an alternate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  version,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    without the surrounding boxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He also recommended utilizing the scrolling nav bar (especially
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> long pages), as on http://getbootstrap.com/components/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would also be good to add icons to the left of menu items,
>>>>>>>>>> especially to denote external links, vs. navigation within the
>>>>>>>>>> Accumulo pages.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We can also consider fixing the top nav bar to the top of the page
>>>>>>>>>> when scrolling (for large enough screen sizes).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Nice, that helps a little.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Totally agree on avoiding the dotted lines -- what you added
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  definitely
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    helps. I tend to always prefer typographical changes over explicit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   breaks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  The features page is a little easier on the eyes now. I think
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  changing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   sub-headers (the h3's, e.g. "Iterators", "Cell Labels",
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  "Constraints",
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   from h3's to h4's would help a bit. Adding some sort of
>>>>>>>>>> distinction
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   between
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   categories would help too -- additional margin, different type
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  color,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   something else I haven't put my finger on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a slight darker header would help distinguish it against
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    main
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  content too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ps. sorry i'm not just playing with this myself and sending you a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  patch
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/14, 7:25 AM, Bill Havanki wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I updated to include a modest margin on either side of the body
>>>>>>>>>>>> content.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The margins are present on larger displays, but on smaller
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  displays
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    (e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   phone, tablet) they disappear so the content spans the whole
>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  You
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    can
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   see the behavior by adjusting the width of your browser to
>>>>>>>>>> skinny
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    back
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   again. If the margins don't appear at all, try doing a force
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  reload in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I added bottom margins to some headers, and a faint gray bottom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  border
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   h2 headers, which tend to be used for main page sections. I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    spacing is much nicer. I'm no fan of the old dotted lines. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some side column content ideas:
>>>>>>>>>>>> - latest Accumulo news
>>>>>>>>>>>> - current Accumulo versions
>>>>>>>>>>>> - links to related projects
>>>>>>>>>>>> - download button, of course :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - upcoming meetup / conference schedule
>>>>>>>>>>>> - link to featured blog post o' the month
>>>>>>>>>>>> - social network links / buttons
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Josh Elser <
>>>>>>>>>>>> josh.elser@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      Agreed on the width of the main page content.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think the (sub)headers took a step back in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    readability. The new stuff tends to run together without an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  emphasis
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual sections. The old CSS rules added some underlining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  beneath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    header elements IIRC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compare http://people.apache.org/~bhavanki/accumulo-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrapped/notable_features.html to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://accumulo.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    notable_features.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing something to better separate the sections would be good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    entirely sure I want to suggest going back the long stippled
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  lines,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  they certainly did make the separation easier to process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/25/14, 12:37 PM, Bill Havanki wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    That's easy to do, yes. Bootstrap uses a 12-column grid
>>>>>>>>>>>>> system,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  so
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  squeeze the body into a smaller portion of that grid. We can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  set
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    margins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another idea, of course, is to use some of that horizontal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    side
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  column content.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Mike Drob <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> madrob@cloudera.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        Is there an easy (and global) way to shrink the width? Long
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  lines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  are difficult to read.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Bill Havanki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Greetings all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reworked / Twitter Bootstrap version of our site is now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   viewable:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    http://people.apache.org/~bhavanki/accumulo-bootstrapped/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The site is built from the Subversion branch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/accumulo/site/branches/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redesign14/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now is a great time for anyone who wants to pitch in to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Check that the pages still look decent after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ensure that all pages can still be navigated to and from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      - Rework a page with some Bootstrap enhancements, or to
>>>>>>>>>> just look
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Update a page to account for changes to the live site since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>     branch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  was created. (Of course we'll sync up just before switching.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As long as you save changes to Subversion, I can update my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  hosted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     copy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    reflect them. Or, set up the ASF CMS in your own environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     quick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      testing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  We are definitely on target for releasing this site update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1.6.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  release. Thanks again for your past and future feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Bill Havanki <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       The new branch is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://svn.apache.org/repos/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asf/accumulo/site/branches/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  redesign14/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Bill Havanki <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Thanks Al!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I managed to set up the CMS tool in a VM and use it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     site, as Josh suggested. If anyone else wants to do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    instructions should work for installing the CMS - I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     README
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    a bit lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#local-build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked around the issue of there being lots of absolute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  URLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   site by running this in the generated content dir and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  navigating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      localhost:8000 in the browser:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  python -m SimpleHTTPServer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I hear any objections, I'll create a branch for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    bootstrapped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     version of the site, and I'll kick it off with my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prototype
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Al Krinker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> al.krinker@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        I am using Twitter Bootstrap at work for about 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  now...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     and gives you lots of nice things. However, we ran into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        where we were implementing custom js scripts and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   conflicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Twitter Bootstrap. The site is not js heavy, so Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    a nice addition to it. Let me know if you need help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Elser <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josh.elser@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        My comment was in context of maintaining a separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>     that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    work on and have staged separately to avoid holding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   production
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       site in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    stasis while we work on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/14, 2:24 PM, Keith Turner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<josh.elser@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         >I'm not aware of anything that gives you the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  WYSIWYG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I use the bookmarklet to edit pages in my web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        https://cms.apache.org/#bookmark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Bill Havanki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // 443.686.9283
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Bill Havanki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // 443.686.9283
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Bill Havanki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // 443.686.9283
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> // Bill Havanki
>>>>>>> // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
>>>>>>> // 443.686.9283
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> // Bill Havanki
>>>>> // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
>>>>> // 443.686.9283
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>


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// Bill Havanki
// Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
// 443.686.9283

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