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From Sean Busbey <busbey+li...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: Bylaw edits based on first vote discussion
Date Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:44:33 GMT
Excellent. Thank you Christopher!

-Sean


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org> wrote:

> Sean-
>
> I took care of it; used the neutral "their".
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Sean Busbey <busbey+lists@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > I was going rewrite it to use singular they instead of the current
> > combination of "his/her" and "his or her". But I haven't found time to do
> > it yet.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Bill Havanki <bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I removed the reinstatement voting actions, as discussed earlier in this
> >> thread. The actions are now purely "New Committer" and "New PMC Member".
> >>
> >> I think a diff between the votes is a great idea, easy to do with svn.
> >>
> >> Any other feedback or issues with the proposed bylaws?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Mike Drob <madrob@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think at this point, any willing person can make edits. I do not
> expect
> >> > we will suffer from too many cooks.
> >> >
> >> > For the next vote, it would be a good idea to include a diff to the
> first
> >> > vote.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Sean Busbey <
> busbey+lists@cloudera.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > How are we handling proposed changes? Just post a new version? Email
> >> > > description and then some coordinating editor (Bill H?) handles
> >> > > implementation?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Bill Havanki <
> >> bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I think you are right about the reinstatement actions.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - If a committer cannot lose status, she cannot be denied getting
> the
> >> > > > commit bit back / her password reset after going idle / emeritus.
> So,
> >> > no
> >> > > > vote is warranted.
> >> > > > - An emeritus PMC member can simply declare that she is back
via
> >> email
> >> > > (the
> >> > > > bylaws even say so right now).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks for doing this.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'm still not sure it makes sense to have "reinstatement"
even
> on
> >> the
> >> > > > > list of voting actions, given that removal is not a possible
> thing,
> >> > > > > but everything else looks good.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'm more comfortable with the release plan being in the
initial
> >> > > > > bylaws, now that we've discussed what that means, so I'm
glad
> you
> >> > > > > included that stuff.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Christopher L Tubbs II
> >> > > > > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Bill Havanki <
> >> > > bhavanki@clouderagovt.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > Hello all,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I have updated our proposed bylaws to account for feedback
> that
> >> > arose
> >> > > > > from
> >> > > > > > the first vote. Here is the link:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://accumulo.apache.org/bylaws.html
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The following is a summary of my updates. There was
a lot of
> >> > > > (excellent)
> >> > > > > > discussion, so please do point out unintentional omissions,
> >> > > > > > misinterpretations, or errors that are somewhat likely
to be
> >> there.
> >> > > :)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > - Fixed punctuation errors and typos noticed by Christopher.
> >> > > > > > - Voting action changes:
> >> > > > > >   - Noted that new actions may be added as needed to
the list
> >> > > > > >   - Changed the release plan action to lazy consensus,
falling
> >> back
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > > majority approval)
> >> > > > > >   - Added release plan cancellation (re-plan) action,
majority
> >> > > approval
> >> > > > > >   - Clarified difference between release plan and product
> release
> >> > > > actions
> >> > > > > >   - Defined "codebase" using Mike's definition
> >> > > > > >   - Noted that committer and PMC removal actions are
> >> intentionally
> >> > > not
> >> > > > > > defined, with references
> >> > > > > > - Added release manager role section
> >> > > > > > - Added release plan section, with content definition
based on
> >> > Mike's
> >> > > > > list
> >> > > > > >   - Noted specifically that dates in release plans
are
> estimates
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I punted on laying out release guidelines, as we have
a page
> for
> >> > > those
> >> > > > > [1]
> >> > > > > > that I could defer to.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I also punted on version numbering, just for now. As
with
> other
> >> > > > issues, I
> >> > > > > > can certainly see that as a worthwhile later addition.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thank you in advance for reviewing. I'm hopeful that
we can
> call
> >> a
> >> > > > second
> >> > > > > > vote by next week.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > [1] http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > // Bill Havanki
> >> > > > > > // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
> >> > > > > > // 443.686.9283
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > // Bill Havanki
> >> > > > // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
> >> > > > // 443.686.9283
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> // Bill Havanki
> >> // Solutions Architect, Cloudera Govt Solutions
> >> // 443.686.9283
> >>
>

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