Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9112106DF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81790 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2014 07:36:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 81750 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2014 07:36:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@accumulo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 81742 invoked by uid 99); 20 Feb 2014 07:36:48 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:36:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of busbey@cloudera.com designates 209.85.216.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.178] (HELO mail-qc0-f178.google.com) (209.85.216.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:36:42 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id m20so2704290qcx.23 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:36:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+HkB4ccPQc6EDtc9elvl8C0xWyrecCbzY5dsACm3N5Q=; b=XhFigB9UsfwfXbYGA/NQlfuvsmgBJhHsSEQcPcq+3bhDthQPGNOoFmSrtLnenY5qlB REDC4xdHQdU6tlreul426iczTB4Ebz3gE0v7DrEXKHti7Mi6pdu5q+MTlGKUxocUvS+F 62vxbLRR9r2mL9jfPqDqxY3l1QFth/GmFDDEpVk8+/vJVAY12KNWg875jQLK8YUJU4P6 Hyi/f88LyOMY7SLkX+jnvt7j1TAt0ig5/vR0OgHziXABwJenCs6UcJlII9740R6xtao6 4oPQSH+iVHnbTIGF6cFUmnBB3T+z7OB/T9BR1wfDayTTUQsfVzbidwfrDwOpA6TqOSws 6xJg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlXEWdwS+s+6wWczcFSJvo6XuEOj5dFanI/llgv86HZrxZTp92VFMyLcbd+SK1cKr7eXHfM X-Received: by 10.140.83.99 with SMTP id i90mr128643qgd.100.1392881781717; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:36:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.232.70 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <53052278.8050402@gmail.com> <5305A177.6050604@gmail.com> From: Sean Busbey Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:36:01 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CHANGES Documents To: "dev@accumulo apache. org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1318ad04de604f2d18f10 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c1318ad04de604f2d18f10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Sean Busbey wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Josh Elser wrote: > >> >> >>> The more I reread this thread, the more I like the release notes >>> described >>> by Eric[2]. >>> >> >> While I agree that would be nice, I don't know of a quantitative way to >> determine that. Is "critical" categorized by some Jira priority? Do we end >> up omitting something that someone wanted? I feel like we should just >> bundle all changes for that release or none at that point. >> >> > We're the Accumulo community, we should be cognizant of what changes are > most likely to impact downstream users. After all, isn't that part of how > we define a public API in the first place? > > As an illustrative example, consider ACCUMULO-1572. Losing all the roles attached to a ZK server when it goes down is going to burn any production deployment of sufficient age. Users will fall into two camps: those already implementing a workaround (e.g. a watchdog that restarts Accumulo processes) and those who have gotten lucky. The latter will most definitely want to hear about this fix in consumable release notes. Depending on the overhead caused to those in the first camp, they likely will also be interested. Even if we just started by filtering based on priority, picking this issue out of the 22 BLOCKER/CRITICAL is much more reasonable then out of the full list of 144 Closed/Resolved Bug issues included for 1.5.1. --001a11c1318ad04de604f2d18f10--